TBC Difficulty compared to Classic

If Burning crusade is based on same difficulty as classic, all the raids will be cleared on first week. Serpentshrine Cavern, tempest keep and hyjal were all open on launch of TBC, but those were tuned to be very hard so very few people cleared them before Black Temple was opened.

If TBC is released with the sunwell patch nerfs, talents and items, there is no point playing because the game is so damn easy.

Blizzard made huge changes to TBC difficulty as more content was released, making most of the challenging stuff trivial.

We can already see how much the buffed talent and items are hurting Classic, with the new min maxing mentality that kills fun out of the game.

Top guilds will still clear everything on 30 minutes, but other people should get the chance to experience the game and difficulty like it was back then. (but without the bugs)

If possible, emulate the difficulty and different patches, instead of doing same mistakes as Classic, even if it takes a bit more work and time.

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I mean, some of the nerfs were pretty fair IMO (like making Cleave no longer hit players behind the enemy in 2.1, or Archimonde no longer cursing Air Bursted characters in 2.2), but some other nerfs (Solarian, Al’ar, Magtheridon etc) rly went overboard. I struggle to imagine Blizzard picking and choosing there, though, as your mileage may vary as to what constitutes a “fair” or “excessive” nerf

I think there is a clear difference between a bug (cleave actually being a whirlwind), an unfair mechanic (cursing air busted chars) and a nerf (20% all reduction).

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I dunno if it’s that simple. I mean, for example, was Dragon Breath on Shade of Aran, or the Arcane debuff on Solarian, an unfair mechanic?

They will also be cleared on day one as well… yes.

It’s to be expected from old content.

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We are getting 2.4.3 talents almost certainly, 2.4.3 items most likely. But I really hope raid mechanics will be prenerf.

Blizzard will be too lazy to give us pre-nerf difficulty. We would be lucky to get the attunements… And they love to give us nerfed content to cater the casuals players.

TBC raids will be clean Day 1 like Classic. Somehow it’ill purge the bad players too, because the World Buff meta won’t be a thing anymore and those players won’t be able to brute force all the raids anymore with some unintentend power.

Just check some TBC raid strat, it more complex than Classic but nothing impossible for the 2020 playerbase.

Even if the release a BFA Classic the raids will be cleaned Day 1 too.

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Don’t forget all content will be time gated in phases and we will be bored to death farming every tier for months.

World buff meta goes, drumbs meta and Bloodlust (Cycling) meta arrives.

TBC will be slightly harder however, but, the hardest content in the game won’t say be as hard as Mythic Retail raiding.

At this stage WoW was still an MMORPG, the designers clearly didn’t consider that flavorful RP mechanics would be stacked on top of each other.

TLDR Harder than Classic easier than BFA.

ohh god, i hope they give pre 2.4 content at start, and then 2.4 at the end…
otherwise they’d make T4/T5 obsolete, due to badge gear.

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TBC won’t be harder than the heroic/mythic BFA content.
It’ll still get cleared day one due to obvious reasons… min-maxing and knowing what to do/preparing for months in advance.

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SW nurf patch was the last one before wrath? No way in a 100 years that is the patch used for at least one reason: It broke Retr PvP … Pala was running around just about 1 shoting everyone lol

I think a lot of ppl simply don’t understand the difference between 2.4.3 and 3.0 and simply conflate the two.

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Blizzard have stated that unlike vanilla, they have all the individual patches available for TBC. And unlike vanilla, the patches of TBC didn’t contain big flaws (remember 1.6 where ppl could cancel being feared by walking backwards).

So it is likely to me they will just roll out the patches at a similar pace as was done back in the day.

In regard to difficulty; it will be steamrolled because all the content is now known. That is a big difference. Remember WotLK which started with a rework of Naxx? This was also a gank and spank even back in the day, because mechanics were known.

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The problem with that is that they can’t just reroll patches as they were - they’d have to recreate them on their modern client, just like they did for Classic. That would mean creating multiple builds from the getgo and, everytime a fix is applied during TBC Classic (and we know there’ll be a few), they’d need to be applied and tested in every (remaining) build of TBC Classic. I can’t imagine any programmer willing to go with that, especially with the skeleton crew Classic WoW has.

What Blizzard SHOULD be doing is make a new World of Warcraft timeline. Forget the Burning Crusade and all the rest of it, and build on the principles that made Vanilla great.

The Emerald Dream perhaps? No resilience. No flying mounts. Something new and better!

Considering Burning Crusade is probably gonna absorb most Classic players, I doubt they’d gonna appeal to a minority like you want them to.

Building on TBC or WotLK would make a lot more sense than building on Vanilla.

Even if they kept it the same as TBC was at release it will still be easily cleared and the reason for that is knowledge. We have all the resources for TBC we know exactly what our pre bis will be, we know the optimal raid set up, best raiding professions and all boss mechanics. You can’t expect raiding to be hard when you basically have a hand book telling you how to optimise the hell out of it.

More casual guilds will struggle with content like some did in Classic, it still makes me laugh that people think no guilds struggled in BWL because many did you just don’t hear about them because they are smaller guilds.

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That’ll depend on what they’d do with it… but Blizzard would 100% just release BC as it’s more popular than classic.
Why waste money, if you can just release old content.

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“there is no point playing because the game is so damn easy”

Well then thats 990% of games ALL GAMES and You know what ?? People play them SHOCKING init ??