TBC Flying Mounts

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Does it actually encourage players to play TBC because you can Fly in Outland? And why you cant Fly in Azeroth? When flying mounts started as Flight Paths in Azeroth…

You can Not fly in outland until you reach level 70, so you still have to walk or run around the outland map anyway… And deeply the rushed content and landscapes of outland are not very pleasing anyway, so why would you like to fly around outland?

Encourage me to continue playing wow, does it not make sense to allow flying mounts in Azeroth too, and for some reason we can only fly around Outland?

The only Content and Landscape i thought was very well done in TBC, is Amerthyst Isle. Outland was rushed… You can see it even more when you decide to buy a flying mount, that outland was greatly rushed and most of the landscapes are very bland.

I am sure though that no one really cares about this opinion… And blizzard wont mind just one player that quits playing…

I might come back when you release WOLK… I didnt like Cata, because you destroyed the Classic Content and the Classic Landscapes. There does seem to be less reasons to play… You dont want to do anything different, only release the same content from new expansions.

No, I think I will quit playing… Does it make sense that you can fly in Outland and Not Azeroth in TBC? Why even offer flying mounts in Outland when you have to walk and run in outland before level 70 so you can buy flying mounts? when you reach level 70 and done most of it without a flying mount?

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Originally back in 2004 the game wasn’t made with flying in mind. Vanilla WoW / Classic WoW is not built as a true 3d world. In many places Blizzard uses trickery to make things appear as if they are fully modeled, but in fact they are just facades. The Stormwind Cathedral is a good example of a building that isn’t actually a building – it’s just a lot of facades.
So flying doesn’t work in Vanilla WoW / Classic WoW, because the world was never built for it.

But flying is possible in Outland, because Blizzard built Outland with flying in mind.

It’s first with the revamp of Azeroth in Cataclysm that flying becomes possible in the Eastern Kingdoms and Kalimdor, because Blizzard goes back and painstakingly remodels everything so you can fly anywhere and see everything from every angle.

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They didnt need to remodel Azeroth to introduce flying in Azeroth. While you can fly in outland and not Azeroth when they release TBC. Makes no sense why you cant fly in Azeroth when flying mounts started in Classic before TBC… Flight Paths, in Outland and Azeroth? But not flying mounts in Azeroth for some reason… All they are doing is trying to encourage players to play expansions, leading to the most recent expansion, Shadow Lands… Nothing new… Unless they decided to add flying abilities in Azeroth when they release TBC…

I feel like there is no reason to play TBC… There are very few reasons why you would need to fly in Outland. Even when you have to use flight paths, run or walk around outland before given the ability to fly…

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Except BE starting area. :frowning:

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I dunno, I don’t think Blizz can recapture the excitement we had back in Vanila going into TBC with the idea of Flying mounts.

Though I haven’t played classic so maybe someone who is playing may have that buzz surrounding the idea of flying.

I still have a love/hate relationship with the Netherwing rep grind.

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Pretty big difference since flight paths have a determined route so you don’t need to actually model everything.

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You understand? you have to reach level 70 in TBC before you can buy a flying mount? when you have probably reached level 70 by completing most of the content. which leads to very few reasons to buying a flying mount to fly around outland, when you did most of it by running around on foot or using flight paths. Then near to the very end of the content, you can use flying mounts…

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They did.

They talk about it on the Behind the Scenes DVD for Cataclysm. Well worth watching:

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You don’t get flying mount to fly around aimlessly doing nothing. You get it to get to content faster and save time (and to actually get to certain dungeons & raids)

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Ah ok… I see this now… Because Blizzard Took Short Cuts in designing the Landscapes… It deeply says alot… Blizzard messed up with expansions in the beginning because they preferred to take short cuts… This takes away their interest in finishing the landscapes in classic…

They could have decided to finish the Landscapes in Classic before moving to other expansions. It would Not take too much work to finish the small areas that were not finished in classic…

I don’t like taking short cuts, because going to long way makes the journey more interesting and memorable…

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An ex-developer called John Straats wrote a book called The WoW Diary:
The WoW Diary: A Journal of Computer Game Development: John Staats

He goes into a lot of detail about how the team built Azeroth way back then. It’s a really interesting book to read if you want the design insights on how the old WoW came to be. Especially if you are of a nostalgic and “classic” mind.

Your post(s) seem to have a bit of a negative spin, as if Blizzard should have had the foresight back then to have built the world so that flying would be possible many years later. But that was never the way WoW progressed as a project. Blizzard didn’t have the expertise of building an MMO world in those early days. It was trial and error. When they start making Outland for the first expansion they’re more skilled and able to do things they originally weren’t able to.

Consider reading the book or excerpts of it if you’re interested in the how the world of Azeroth was made in the old days. I highly recommend the book. :+1:

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They have an opportunity to do something else to older expansions than to simply release the older expansions. There will by a point where people refuse to play after a certain expansion. Because they destroyed the classic feel. They could have chosen to do something different to older expansions, than to simply re release them. In effect players will reach a certain expansion and quit playing again and again. Unless they try to keep the feel of classic wow.

That saying. We cant improve, If we keep doing the same thing over and over again., So Classic will eventually stop being interesting. But the release of the newer expansions is also the same as doing the same thing over and over again.

Eventually the Nostalgia will end and people will get board again… Players may choose to only play wow classic, yet they will eventually stop once they have reached their level of fulfillment of Nostalgia…

The only way blizzard thinks their games can survive is by creating new expansions. And thus eventually all these servers dedicated to every known expansion, will reach a point where people have had enough feel of nostalgia.

The best blizzard can do, is it complete the modelling of older expansions, and to show that they stopped taking short cuts. They did something right when they made classic. Yet they took short cuts…

There is another saying, When you know something worked, you don’t change how it worked. Rome was not built in a day… So don’t take short cuts in the beginning…

Because blizzard relents about the short cuts they made in classic, they decided to create different expansions to correct the short cuts, but they destroyed the world and the experience by building a different world, when the first world was doing well.

" They made things more complex and complicated, when the old world was doing just fine. Complexity over Simplicity… We are made to believe we need to expand our intelligence in order to fit in with the new world coming "

I understand it… New Worlds coming, because we like the idea of a more complex and more intelligent experiences. But Deeply its about Simplicity, not complexity… Complex thinking to how we experience the world makes life more complicated, not simple. We have created convenience in all instances and even in fictional worlds. Convenience alters the world, and we realize we want freedom, when convenience comes with complexity and complications.

In the very end, people will desire simplicity. This is why classic wow was a success in the very beginning. because it was simple… At the entrance of every new expansion, Requires more time, and in the end you seek freedom and more time…

I deeply seek simplicity in a game. Not a need for more time to complete everything. Too many expansions means more time. And we are at a loss because of new expansions consuming our time…

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I believe this time round they are giving the playerbase the option to stay playing classic and not move their character into TBC.

Thats a step in the right direction for the players who enjoy playing classic.

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They should take an interest in finishing those short cuts before they create new expansions that alter the landscape to remove those short cuts…

I believe that everyone in the world, would love to change the past in order to get things done right, with a hope in not making mistakes in their life…

Deeply even in creating a game, you would desire to change its past, or what you didn’t do. In a game you can alter the past and do things you did not do, or finish things you decided not to finish. And once you have come to a point where you believe it has been perfected, you move on to other things.

But I still prefer simple things, over complex things. because complex things take up more time, and are usually more complicated.

I am not a machine, or robot playing games that needs machines or robots. Even in such a world that desires us to become machines or robots, our search for more complex intelligence through what we create will eventually become our prison… Even now being addicted to playing games that require more time and more complex thinking.

I actually believe these opinions of mine are leading me to quit playing anyway…

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Right. That’s probably a discussion you should have on the WoW Classic forum, as there are definitely different opinions on this.
I mean, some people want no changes and prefer Classic to be a true representation of the old game. And other people are more liberal and would like Blizzard to further the potential of Classic WoW with new content, updates, changes and fixes.

I’m not one to have much of an opinion on that, because I don’t play Classic WoW or plan on playing Classic TBC. I have merely explained why you can’t fly in the old Azeroth. A discussion beyond that on whether you should be able to - i.e. if Blizzard should remodel the entire Classic world - that’s a discussion for the WoW Classic community. Have it with them.

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Maybe it cheers you up that as a druid you can already start flying on lvl 68. :slightly_smiling_face: :bird:

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Im very sorry.

I thought i was on the classic forums… Can someone place it where it needs to be?

My strong opinions of mine seem to show me that i will quit playing…

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There’s end game content you can’t reach unless you have a flying mount (at least 3 instances and one raid) so that’s a pretty solid reason for getting a flying mount.

There was no dungeon finder in TBC so if you couldn’t get to the dungeon/raid then that was it, you where locked out of that content.

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that would require them to make something new and blizzard don’t like that