Well if you lose against first global convoke then its most likely not game problem.
Combustion is prolly the most obvious one.
For some reason this sounds like sarcasm to me. What spells to use? As lock you press 123 tab 123 tab 123 tab (actually almost exactly same as Legion affli which was the worst design ever). There are some aspects of game that are better than in sl (i guess stuff like you can’t blind in stealth as rogue/theres no absorb in stealth conduit etc.) But overall that game is awful. Gl wining as warr against a mage or as mage vs slsl lock. I mean i might be wrong since i have only like 10 Hours played on tbc and it was few years back but it doesnt seem like Fun experience to mee at all.
This is Whats happening rn in TBC beta you die in Frost nova to ice lance. But idk i guess TBC was great.
Ye no dampening, 30min arenas will be definitely blast.
I dunno why you would think that tbh. I suggest looking at some of the current videos by Channimal on youtube. If you just 123 tab then yes, the game is going to be boring.
yea not a game problem if the 2 first spells are starsurges that got 100% crit rate and delete you 100-0
true story.
because the mage glows orange or why?
Last time i checked combust is not on the gcd and neither is triple fire blast for instant deletion
how is this please good game design?
Fire blast should do close to 0 dmg, then it would be fair. Right now it does so stupid dmg that they ignore the class mechanics just for the sake of instant burst dmg.
And what if R1 player repeatedly lose to this?
Also I never said it’s game problem, I said it’s all about reaction time.
If you can react in under 0.25 seconds, you’re okay.
Some people just can’t.
No matter on which side of the match I am, I don’t enjoy winning or losing just because enemy didn’t react fast.
BTW my mage friend used a global, then he was deleted by convoke because his Global cooldown was ready, so he couldn’t use block. He died in 0.25 seconds from full HP.
What’s the counterplay then?
Not play, so you have always GCD ready? Because full HP is the kill range there.
Cos not a single sane mage would press combust randomly and 100-0 you. For example in 2s they often sheep one target and their healers stuns the other target and uses combust in 99% so as long as you can avoid sheep the mage wont use his combust and if he does you can peel. + If you rotate your deff cds well you shouldn’t die, in 3s its similar i guess mages mostly play rmp/shatter, their goes are usually obvious and theres no way they wouldn’t press it as often as possible.
When it comes to your convoke example then idk sounds like an extreme not as norm.
R1 doesnt mean much tho. And i don’t think anyone has these issues unless they choke really hard.
Well it has travel time in first place And the play is to save cs/db when enemy has convoke ready.
I mean wtf i never ran into these issues. These convoke issues were problem at start of expansion, if you can’t play around it at this point then not even insane reaction time would save you.
If you lose like that then its probably deserved loss.
They do, there are multiple videos.
Most popular being Crusader deleted from mount.
You can’t use DB if you don’t have global ready.
And I’m not saying it’s uncounterable.
What I am saying is: IT. IS. ABOUT. REACTION. TIME.
It feels like you’re incapable of comprehending the words.
Yes, you can kick it and not die, if you react in under 0.25 seconds. I’m not doubting that.
But needing to react that fast is gameplay based around reaction time, whether you want or not.
Seen some maestro mies’ clips and he was usually undergeared af + Those clips are old af and he died to full moon not starsurge I believe.
Well you asked me what the play is and i told you. Cs is off global, idk about blink/alter time but i guess you could use them too.
How exactly it is about reaction time when in your mage example your mage died in global = i guess he can’t press spells such as ice block? If you can’t block cos of gcd faster reactions wont help you.(i guess you wanted to proove your point that he died in 0,25 or something).
According to humanbenchmark website average reaction time is 200-250ms. Obviously its measured in different circumstances + theres latency etc. But as i said its usually obvious when convoke is about to be casted so youre mentally prepared to do that so if youre average you can kick it even before second starsurge. Also Its rng so its not like every convoke kills you.
Even if convoke killed you this fast (in 0,25s) the chance is really low since its rng and its the only ability that you can’t see x seconds in advance (well as i said you actually can expect it since goes are usually very obvious since this game is scripted).
As i said in any other game you need to react way faster and sometimes to even harder mechanics. If this game is too fast for you then idk it might be time to reroll to chess or something. Imo back in time like in wrath you needed to react even faster and more often since it wasnt this much scripted and you needed to react constantly (for example with cds up sheep cast time was faster than global etc.).
No. I’m currently unsubbed. Every expansion has been trash after Legion and the garbage class design it brought.
PvP was at its peak from Cataclysm to WoD.
Everything before was messy and unpolished, everything after was a disaster.
Well gcd is longer than 0,25s and reaction time depends on circumstances right like if something happens out of nowhere it takes longer than if you expect something to happen you react faster right. For example last time i tried to click on humanbenchmark i had 162ms average and i consider myself extremely slow. So idk if my reactions are inhuman or youre wrong in this case.
But in any case, as you mentioned, it is important to consider pure reaction to an unexpected event and reaction to an anticipated event differently. People who don’t do that in WoW usually are the ones lacking the knowledge to anticipate events, blaming it all on an “impossible reaction time”, but if they had read the signs and were ready to answer said event instead of doing something else, they would not have the issue.
It is little more than a game of knowledge and understanding, with a soft reset on the knowledge every major patch.
So 5 out of 9 classes is a joke? (Not to mention, there’s more viable classes depending on the bracket) You realise, that’s a better viability % than most recent retail Seasons, right?
So how is that different to retail in any other season?
If TBC arenas aren’t for you, thats fair, but at least try justify it better than saying something as stupid as that.
You are the one being clueless around here. There is about 5-7 specs in TBC that simply destroys other specs. We are talking about Arena here. Surely you do well in BGs and World PvP as Hunter for example. But serious 3v3 about 5-7 specs are simply kings.
If you dont believe me you can try it out yourself. Post back here when you got rank one with Shaman. Not before. XD
Did you even play any arena the last 4 years? This has been an ongoing thing for ages.
Are you trying to imply retail has a lot of super viable R1 specs? Get outta here.
Literally everything you’ve said applies to retail, and has done so for many years now.
TBC also has more brackets (That still means arenas, not bgs you But I guess you dont know what 2v2 or 5v5 is)
But ontop of that, if R1 is all that matters to you, and is what makes something viable or not, are you multi r1 ? Because if not, why are you even playing Retail?
But I guess you dont know what 2v2 or 5v5 is)
Because if not, why are you even playing Retail?