Yea, I see.
And yes, why is he ignoring the fact that he has coil? Also, PScream will not land on an enemy healer if you’re being trained. If you fear a healer as sp while being trained, it’s because you’re either at low mmr, or the opposing team are clueless
Edit: or the opposing healer is playing a “melee wings”/“fistweaving” build
Tbh you can if you play with somebody with a freedom (or use gfade for it) but yeah not that easy and common to get otherwise.
Gfade only removes the snare. A simple snare reapply 1 second later solves the issue. The opposing healer should not be anywhere near the sp if they know what they’re doing
If the healer cant see 2 melees chasing a shadow priest after him and not understand to run away… No comments xD
Luxury was meant about whole point of 1 school of magic and about a risk of being kicked on that school of magic.
Does tremor removes stun or silence? NoIDontThinkSo.
Yes I did for a reasons I already explained and also provided enough arguments to be understandable even for you. Yet here we are, yet again I have to explain to you what’s difference between what impact you can provide on game while being trained by 3 player and you saying: hur dur just press gate or port, why are you bringing up only CC?
I am quoting this one last time.
What does this mean? It means that according to OP you can’t press any of this abilities while being trained by 2 melee/rsham. Which means that OP is considering himself useless if he doesn’t do damage, since he mentioned this earlier:
“Your mates”. So he is considering himself useless in this process. I am saying that in that scenario (being trained by 2 melee/rsham) affli is contributing less than Spriest. Does porting away, gating away has same impact as you being able to use strong instant CCs? No. I repeat that this scenarios have been proven in action by AWC teams, so your opinion is irrelevant either way.
Bro, pls. WTF are you typing? What is we’re? Why do I have to struggle to understand you? This sentence makes 0 sense. I’ll consider it as are*. Affli is effectively more useless when being trained by 3 then spriest.
I don’t care about your half story Cinderella arguments, sorry. You said that I compared CCs, then you explained basics of lock, like anyone asked. You clearly didn’t state half story anywhere. You can describe full story and in the end when you’ll check drustvar you’ll notice that there are more spriests at any bracket and rate compared to affli.
Because their comparison is flewed. My man dumbledore still can’t comprehend what i am writing. I told this man:
About psychic scream. You indeed never risk to get kicked on shadow while pressing that ability, and he wrote:
Do you understand what do i have to deal with?
You are talking from your pov. I am talking about skilled players. On awc it was happening. Somehow you are always describing scenarios where you are getting trained by 3 spec and your partners just watch and do nothing. How convenient.
Was the sp being trained on the awc? Show me the sp being trained by melee on the awc for whole arenas, and fearing an opposing healer who was not playing melee wings/fistweaver
Not randomly but in a scenario when you stun the healer and make your way to fear it.
Ofc if you have to cross the map for it it’s 100 % obvious =D
You’ll be able to do it, if you’re not the go target, and if the opposing dps don’t react. In solo since there’s no comms, it’s more common to happen
Yes sps were the main training targets during their reign. Almost every team was playing same comp, spriest/assa/hpally. Spoiler alert, maps that ppl were choosing wasn’t mugambala where you have to run so much that you never make to healer. Also your 2 melee/rsham on largest map is cherry picked scenario just to suit your agenda. Stop the cap. I described scenario where you are a support spec, being trained but still setting up a kill, which is what was actually happening. You are describing a scenario where you can’t cast anything, 2 melee/rsham is facerolling you and your partners are afk.
I LOOOVE how you use the “stop the cap” when that’s literally what you’e been doing all night, creating specific and rare scenarios to make your arguments seem legit. You know, a broken clock also marks the correct hour twice a day
You brought that scenario, wtf are you talking about. I am talking about awc games that were actually happening. Are you actually from this world?
This is you right?
That was a reply to a whole different topic/discussion, which served a simple example of scenarios which can make you fake cast to death.
You are legit challenged
So what that made up scenario that you cherry picked to spit your clueless take about your spec being a total punchbag has to do with actual game? You need your head checked buffoon. You playing a victim in every thread you make is getting repetitive. You brought that scenario and said that it was me who was creating them. You are deluded from this reality.
And yet, here you are, like the mongrel you ought to be, only to make a clown of yourself
The instant you answered:
with:
I just stopped reading since it just shows you ignore reading.
I clearly wrote “it still falls due to tremor totem otherwise you wouldnt call Psychic Scream a luxury.” But it seems like, what you said, luxury to you is by having 2 schools… Sry SP arent demo or destro locks. with being able to pump out dmg even if shadow is locked.
But its quite interesting on how you try to deflect arguments all around. First it were based on CCs, then its based on not being able to do anything but you are calling gateway/teleport not being that strong in that sense. Quite interesting indeed, and sadly, dont need explanations from you since I dont need to change the way I argue based on what you write. I dont derail or change story overtime. Sorry.
Were Spriest hard-casting everything except stun/fear/silence back then? Honestly interested to know.
You are right I shouldnt be writing “we’re” the way I do since its “we are”. Sorry if you cant understand it otherwise. Ill explain it better.
They can use mortal coil. Interrupt. Keep dotting. Cursing. So im sorry if you didnt want to understand.
I mean, you clearly never heard of Mortal Coil. So not my fault. 
Flewed? I dont understand what you say but I guess it should be… Flawed? 
You are the one who started comparing. 
Ahh you are talking before they got nerfed or when they had Damnation? I guess thats relevant today.
and I just looked through those older AWC before 10.0.7. the SP barely got trained, they focused the rogue 70%+ of the games. Unless you can prove me otherwise when I just looked through them.
This is the scenario that you made up. Noone talked about fearing DPS. Another cherry picker.
Sry affli isn’t demo or destro. Can’t pump dmg either when shadow is locked.
It was based on CC, then you lost argument and typed this:
Is gate or teleport a CC? Why are you deflecting argument?
Not me, OP. He listed abilities that he can’t cast therefore he is implying that if he can’t cast dps abilities he is useless.
They weren’t, but death was caused by their cross cc and assa rogues being able to apply high MS with shiv while doing dmg.
Where is CC besides mortal coil in this list. Also I don’t remember denying the fact that affli has mortal coil, only instant CC. Not comparable to spriests utility.
Hello? You are the one not understanding? Also you just skipped whole point that I made about dumbledore, simping hard I guess.
Do I need to re-quote myself why I did it? Here we go again:
Btw, you are the guy who said that affli has a stun.
Pretty much shows your game knowledge.
AWC Dragonflight Cup 2 NA Finals. 2 Best spriest/rog/hpally team: GG vs LG. Out of 5 games spriest died in 4.
You didnt even know you can chain CC as warlock. 
You talked about the resto shaman running into you so you can fear? Right…
So you are saying SP can now?
I guess you still dont know Mortal Coil is a CC. But ill explain it to you again because im nice… Mortal Coil Is A Cc.
So I am deflecting arguments when calling out things you dont seem to know about? Being trained by melees makes gateway/teleport quite valuable. Or… you did know about it?
So you deemed yourself as a professor giving out knowledge to the forgotten children of Azeroth by starting to compare it to Aff locks. I guess thats one way to do it.
Being allowed to do dmg and not doing dmg is quite the difference though. CCs is strong, sure, but if you are not allowed to deal any dmg either while being hard trained by 2 melees that can stun you/your partner etc. I guess you only need 1 damage dealer in a 3v3 today. (Damnation or no damnation is a big difference.)
Ah yes, I forgot mortal coil is instant but got a roughly 0.2 sec projectile? or is it less? so it cant be called instant cc. And you denied it when u didnt bring it up during when u compared them and then started getting defensive when it was brought up.
Sorry, I dont know dumbledore and I didnt even argue based on his side, more on what u left out trying to make SP gods and aff trash based on 2 schools and 1 more CC compared to aff. Yes. Psychic Scream requires you to be close to them unless you didnt know. We argued based on 2 melees training you + a resto shaman. Not mirror or other comps.
Shadowfury. Its quite amazing that you have played lock for so long but still dont know the basics of warlocks. Are you okay? Is it a button you never use? I’ve used it quite alot when I played warlock before.
and I said its a CC chain they can do.
Ah yes, mirror comps and the SP rarely stood still since he could use Damnation to put up dots and focus on other things at the same time. I forgot.
As it is. If youre left free as sp …you melt ppl down now.
But if youre focused by any melee -which you are every single game start to finish- you wont be able to do anything.
A thats slowly getting into the realm of not- “whats viable?” but more like “omfg this is infuriating to play”…
Melee can imagine this as if every single caster had an 15sec cd disarm or the complete “kiting” toolkit of frost mage.
Yea, noone is rly denying that SP do quite good dmg if left alone and plz dont dispel my dots
Never was stated. Lying again.
Cherry picking those imaginary scenarios to prove your agenda ain’t gonna make you look smarter.
Nobody said that, spare my time and learn how to read.
I guess you are still doing your best to hide the fact that you already lost this argument.
Still deflecting and pretending that you didn’t get exposed here. How old are you?
First you say this:
Now you are trying to explain to me how warlock works when you have negative winrate on lock. I guess it’s harder then playing one of the most braindead op version of ret.
Better than pretending to know anything, while typing clueless nonsense like this:
You are so deluded from reality that you have stun on affli now .
Are you down this bad that you bring random skills to prove your clueless takes? We were talking aboit instant cc buffoon, hablas ingles? Instant C C. You should press it tho, maybe you won’t have negative wr on destro next time.
Oh wow, not like i stated 30 time that every comp had spriest in it, because they were that good, therefore it was perma mirror games. Took you eternity to realize or read it 