I’m pretty sure people didn’t like titanforge and really bad loots. Idea was getting less crappy loots and more good ones.
Now when blizzard does it, it’s less loot, still as much crappy ones and still no good loots.
There’s no system to get gear by playing the game (it used to be the case in WOTLK, and being able to know when you’re going to get gear is a good thing, now being lucky would accelerate this (and those loots were not bis hu so)
I know PVP, i don’t pvp, balance is worse with covenants then it ever was.
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I think it’d be great to partially go back to the model we had in Wrath. Where bosses drop badges garunteed, then if you don’t get any usable loot for a while you can buy something with the badges.
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It’s not a new system, it’s the old system. And we’re all much better off for it.
Now getting a piece of gear that you can equip actually means something.
So you want TF and corruption back?
Why you bring TF into thisor corruption when all it has to do do is with feeling the sence of progression…
Did TF traumatise you people or something?
TF wouuldnt impact sence of progression at all.
If you want more loot like BFA then they have to bring back TF, which means the good loot will be even RARER and you’ll be vendoring almost everything.
? We only want loot, not TF, so we have a sence of progression.
You’re putting words in people’s mouth.
So you want more loot without TF, this is not possible.
Most important is RNG works the same for everyone, no favoritism. Loot is working the same as ever, since vanilla, you are just used to get gear faster. And why the rush anyway, most important is your group is killing bosses, bosses drop loot and someone in your group is getting loot and overall group is stronger for next difficulty. Why would it be so important you specifically get the upgrade?
Next, week you might kill 16 bosses again and even get 16 pieces of loot. Dont give up.
Its not possible cause its not in the game thus people complain. Go figure?
Actually just as much loot drops from m+ now as in BFA, when you consider that SL dungeons are shorters. It’s the same amount of loot for time spent.
I have NEVER seen a “there’s nothing to do thread” on EU or US forums yet it’s plastered everywhere in defense of stupid time gating development choices.
SL dungeans are longer. They just feel shorter cause some bosses are short after another.
And no, For every 10 runs 30+2 = 32 chances vs 20 chances.
Well you think wrong. Becouse people want to play new game with old desing.
and those people are all playing classic 
now stop ruining retail!
Yes they were playing classic and clearly they are big of audience worth cuttering to.
Then cater to them by adding content to classic not by removing progression from retail.
Why would they cutter to much smaller audience? There was clearly huge chunk of retail audience and classic audience what prefere loot to be actualy valuable and not just epics rainig from sky.
When people say meaningfull loot, people dont mean soft cap 184 meaningfull looot.
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if you are soft capped at 184 itemlvl than problem is in you not in game desing. And 184 itemlvl in 4 weeks of expansion is totaly fine pace.