Thanks for dropping MM damage - the only thing that kept them viable.
Now I’m still getting smashed in solo shuffle but I don’t have the damage to pressure people away from me (note I was 2.1k solo shuffle as MM last season).
Damage was good but there were other classes more deserving of nerfs such as BM.
Anyway, typical blizzard putting MM back it’s in natural C tier place.
Season is new n inflation has not kicked in yet so expecting end of last seasons rating to hold any relevance in new season this early on isnt going to do you any favors. MM is still fantastic, you just cant backpaddle n press rapid to global plate classes anymore unlike last season.
Bro it’s not fantastic. Every other ranged spec doesn’t need to cast anymore so why can’t MM use rapid fire.
Melee has so much mobility that stopping to cast an aimed shot is a risk.
Have you tried playing MM is an all melee lobby?
MM isnt casting either as it cant be kicked, it has nothing in common with a caster outside of being ranged, it plays like a ranged melee.
Several casters still cast a ton to do optimal damage. Destro, Demo, Affli all casts none stop if they want kill preasure. Its pretty much just ele n boomy who are viable casters without ever actually hardcasting anything.
You´re using previous seasons MM as reference point which was a season it was absurdly overtoned so yes in that comparison its going to feel bad, just like DH´s will feel bad to the fotm rerollers after the recent nerfs.
Cries in SP main, and MM alt
It’s horrible. Disgusting, and you can EASILY get shut down from doing any proper damage, with the amount of stuns, disarms, etc
Demo(lock in general) has absolutely nothing that is not casted. Can’t even fear, imps, burst, tirant etc without casting. GL against double meele.
So thats a false claim.
You can benefit from precog as caster, not as MM tho. Also every single caster feels better casting anything than MM “casting” aimed shot.
Hunter is omega squishy while kiting is not really doing much. Once you get yourself in a safe spot, it’s not like casting that one aimed shot is gonna turn the game. MM is only somewhat dangerous (at least for leather classes or cloth) during trueshot. Outside of that it’s a meme and can be actually ignored.
It’s not in such a horrible spot as OP make it sound. Just like DH is not.
MM is alright. Its just melees are really strong rn aswell so we are being kept in check in arena.
Thats what I have been telling to Masses of Evil. They know MM is struggling in arena, more so in 3s modes. But they are evil and have always had agenda to put down MM.
MM can never ever be S+ tier, even if blizzard gives us 50% more dmg it cant. Because it lacks proper defensives and selfheals. Our tools are able to kite 1 melee but not 2 melees.
Currently its B tier and it will not exist unless blizz give us super dmg buffs. Or proper defensives.
We get huge nerfs to craven. Huge nerfs to root so we cant root 2 melees. Craven is useless. It HAS to get back to 15sec AND remove BOTH bleeds and dots. We are not able to restealth with camo because of this = We can never get back our health back, all other classes can.
Our class dont work effectively. Thanks to Masses of Evil and blizz laziness. Masses of Evil wanted craven (feign death) to get nerfed to useless. And they got it done.
I am making to send a direct complaint to blizz email and by phone.
I am going to make a thread about this when I have free time.
a hunter complaining that he has to cast
oh man.
The irony of your post, when in fact MM Hunters DO cast much more than (mainly frost and fire) mages nowadays
It’s because too many people cried on the forums (mostly mages and green geared people in random battlegrounds) about MM dmg, which wasn’t even high to any plate or mail spec, and disturbingly low against specs with shield items equipped.
But yeah, the spec is extremely squishy and if you denied aimed shots there was never any danger. I remember clearly sending like 5 aimed shots in a row into Warriors and Ret paladins and they would barely go to 20% HP last season, but of course 1 Aimed shot into rapid fire did proc a 440k hp Fire mage.
The people who cried about Sniper shot weren’t the people who died in the opener from the hunter because he did it from stealth. Those were the people who let some guy do multiple sniper shots to them during a game because pillars are hard, yumm, delicious.
This.
I just found it so amusing people were qquing about MM after we went trough all of Shadowlands where Marksman had actual 1 shot potential with 3 covenants, and had nowhwere near the qq.
Sniper Shot? The meme pvp talent in SL, used only in bgs is all of a sudden a problem, and the ability didnt change one bit. Who the hell lets a 3 second cast go off in arena?
I did some shuffles in 10.2 as MM, and the damage into mail and plate is abysmal. Literally no pressure outside of Explosive shot and buffed arcane shots. Going for a trap doesnt make a difference.
They nerfed RF last hotfix and at that point only a single MM broke 1.8 in RSS lmao.
And what else did they do. Nerfed the roots and Survival instincts on a class which is begging for better defensives. DF dispelling added to our slipperiness, the 3 second dmg reduction is cool but less value overall because it weakned our most valuable defense - kiting.
Besides, the reason why MM has been hit and miss is because we cant do damage while kiting, which is why BM is every hunter now.
I have seen 1 other MM across my 3 chars, it is really sad.
Do yeah, again, have fun facing backpeddling BMs while their ZOO mows you down.
frost mages cast like 2 seconds glacials ?
If Hunters actually had to start casting it would blow their minds how good they have it now. Hunters are ranged melee, not casters.
Dont worry about us.
You should worry about warrior whooping DKs butt.
And MM’s cast 2.6 sniper shots (which they can’t blink midcast in case people try to LoS)
I havent played my DK since season 1, im a warrior main myself atm although i mostly play Fury, so in that sense i suppose we have alot in common! i aswell am only B tier n only have two buttons but you dont see me complaining about it.
According to Wow Meta MM is now behind arcane and frost dk lol
HA! Sucks to be you !
But seriously, if they ever rework MM, let them rework these animations of yours, because they look god awful.
Your mog and that bald face are an issue too, but they make me laugh