English isn’t my first language either. Language is not the problem here. Your assumptions are. Especially since you’re STILL assuming I’m not in a guild. Despite having told you not to assume this twice in a row.
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take it easy dude no need to be rude ive explained what i ment 2 times now
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What? It’s not rude to tell you to stop assuming stuff. Actually assuming stuff that’s wrong on the other hand.
i explained thats not what i ment already i did not assume you did not have a guild what i ment was joining one or in your case being in one will help to get to do dungeons
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Dude, telling me to join a guild when I’m already in a guild is either an assumption or so incredible pointless that it wouldn’t be worth typing out.
You’re STILL SAYING it too.
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Prove me i am wrong :
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The RDF killed the social: In 2010 maybe, in 2022 not. Wotlk private servers that disabled RDF proved it, TBC too, the “You think you do but you don’t” has never been so true.
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The RDF has killed the social bis: The RDF tool allows to empty the channels in order to let us speak freely on it, today the channel is spammed with announcements and if we have the misfortune to speak for fun we are insulted or ignored
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RDF is a tool, therefore not RP: The BG tag when slacking in front of an NPC or via the tool has never bothered anyone and it dates from Vanilla
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With the RDF people socialize less to group: Spammer “LF last tank for” with a reply in pm “Hi +1”, is not sociable. In addition, the Salute in question is still retrieved via the RDF once TP in the dungeon and/or grouped automatically, it’s just politeness
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With RDF people no longer talk in dungeons: RDF does not impact a person’s willingness to talk in dungeons, and this has been proven once again on Wotlk who disabled RDF. What makes players socialize in the dungeon is the combination of discovery + difficulty
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The cross-server RDF has killed the social: True, and we can very well not activate this feature, however we are already drowned in the mass since the servers are 2 to 3x more populated than at the time , in other words this defect is already implemented natively. In addition, the BGs are cross-server since Vanilla, and it has never bothered anyone
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With RDF I can’t group manually: False, you can make an announcement in the channel, group them and tag. Or go there on foot if you wish, it’s a principle called the Walk-in
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With the RDF I can’t make friends and keep them in contact: False, nothing prevents it, however there is no reason for others to keep in touch while the dungeon is clean in 15min chrono
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The RDF which allows TP in the dungeon is bad: True when you discover the game, False when you have played 10 years of play. The Wotlk private servers which have disabled the RDF have proven it, 5min of auto fly in afk Alt+Tab Google
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The RDF allows abuse of kicks: False, there is a 15min cooldown before the first kick, in other words the dungeon is already clean at this time. While a manual group gives full power to the lead and can kick at the slightest whim (lack of dps, no cc, not enough stuff, too much of the same type of stuff to need etc.) Worse yet, a person can leave the group without ANY penalty, once they get the loot they want right in the middle of the dungeon, imagine that if it’s a dps that tag tank to make it faster, roll dps, gain the loot and quit, with the RDF the person gets the “deserter” for 30min.
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RDF is not Classic: Indeed, that’s why Classic ERA exists, a server that has been neglected by its own fan base apparently “the best version of WoW”
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If you want RDF, go to Retail: If you don’t want RDF, go back to Classic ERA, the server you abandoned and which was nevertheless el famoso “the best version of WoW”. The RDF is part of Wotlk.
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It’s Classic not retail: Wrong, it’s Wotlk, just stop.
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Players will prefer soloQ RDF to get the buff 15% : Ok just remove the buff then.
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RDF should be implemented with ICC only : Wrong, RDF was a part of 40-45% of the total Wotlk life, and RDF is not a dg/raid content, it’s just a tool so as the game is in 3.3.5 it has to be in day one, exactly as the fly is 150%, 1.5sc casting, double spec, no CD every 3 days to craft an Titan Bar and 200 others things that we can list.
For more exemplaination read that =>
Yes and we did not have these things until ICC
- Summoning Stones: To use any Summoning stone, a character must be at least level 15. There is no maximum level to use these meeting stones.
- Health and Mana Regeneration: These regeneration rates have been increased up to 200% for low level characters. As the character level increases, regeneration rates gradually decrease, until returning to normal rates at level 15.
- Troll and Orc shaman totems now have their own unique appearance.
- Nerfed Oculus
- The distance at which these health bars are visible to players has been increased by 40 yards. (oh wait, isn’t already enabled on TBC ?
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- The speed of improving the Norfendre reputations has been increased by approximately 30%.
Yes and we did not have these things until ToC
- Cast duration to summon any ground mount is now 1.5 seconds, down from 3 seconds.
- The skill Apprentice Rider (75) can now be learned at level 20 for 4 gold. A letter will be sent to characters reaching level 20 to direct them to the riding master.
Companion Rider skill (150) can now be learned at level 40 for 50 gold. A letter will be sent to characters reaching level 40 to send them again to the riding master.
The Expert Rider skill (225) can now be learned at level 60 for 600 gold from Honor Hold or Thrallmar masters. Faction discounts are now applied (Honour Hold for the Alliance, Thrallmar for the Horde). Flight speed at this skill level increased to 150% of run speed from 60%.
Artisan Rider Skill (300): Faction discounts are now applied (Honor Hold or Valor Expedition for the Alliance, Thrallmar or Warsong Offensive for the Horde).
To continue harmonizing the number of mounts available for purchase for each race, a new 60% speed ground mount has been added for night elves, and a new 100% speed ground mount has been added for Forsaken.- Object comparisons: by pressing the Shift key. while hovering over an item with the mouse now displays the stat differences from the currently equipped item in the corresponding slot.
- Portals have been added to Orgrimmar and Stormwind to lead players to the Stairs of Destiny at the Dark Portal.
- A new zeppelin dock has been added to Thunder Bluffs to allow Horde players easier travel to and from Orgrimmar.
- The local mail department got tired of walking so far each day to collect mail and decided to install a large number of new mailboxes in Stormwind, Undercity, Darnassus and Orgrimmar.
- All stackable potions are now stackable by 20.
Yes and we did not have these things until Ulduar
- All ground mounts can now swim without unhorsing their rider. Flying mounts still cannot swim and dismount their rider when entering water.
- DOUBLE SPEC
- Applying a glyph no longer requires being near a Lexicon of Power. The same rules apply for changing glyphs
- Players no longer need to complete the Nat Pagle, Extreme Angler quest to become Artisan Anglers. The quest rewards you with a special premium fishing rod. Players who have already completed this quest can visit Nat Pagle in Dustwallow Marsh to receive this new fishing rod.
RDF is not a RAID or a DUNGEON, it’s a mecanic/parameter like all i listed before.
You just want a CUSTOM WOTLK, you don’t like this game, go to Classic ERA and stop trying to ruin our game.
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omg whatever dude i wont say it again. i can kinda see why u have problems geting into dungeons now. and its not becuse you play melee. after ive explained this over and over this is not what i ment u keep telling me you know better what i ment then i do myself i wont respont to this any longer i hope lfd never comes into the game in my opinion it ruins everything classic is suppose to be.
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You’ve told me to join a guild in 4 separate posts in this topic despite me telling you to stop assuming.
I wish I could believe you’ll stop replying though, since I kinda already asked you to do just this.
i wont prove you wrong im not gonna respond to all that i see u in every post about lfd u guys lost lfd wont come in wotlk classic if it ever will it will be long into the expansion but i hope it never will hf discussing this for a couple of months more
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and u telling me to not replying is not the reason i wont respond any more but becuse u are a toxic person bye bye
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Lmao.
Called it I guess.
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Yes easiersaying just “omg rdf killed the social” than create a real post like mine with every argument on the same post.
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“Community” exists on TBC servers … leave no RDF as it changes to Wotlk
New players, can start Fresh server Wotlk - with RDF
No issues… Prove me wrong?
i literally dont get how it ruins the community, when its a blank slate, dont go to fresh server? if you want to stay with the classic community
or Blizz - for the love of god, just give us 1 server! with RDF on it and the ones who want it, can just flock there like, no issues?
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I’m just gonna quote myself here:
1 old 1 new server lol… Work?
I don’t expect them to change at all really, hence why I wont be there playing.
But really, how long do you think wotlkc will last? It’ll most likely be over in a years time.
Sadly way to easily done. Far to often…
Gotta feel really good to be so blissfully unaware… I can assure you it has taken me that long on many occations. Until I just gave up. Haven’t even tried to join/make a group for a long long time now.
Yea because it can’t have anything at all to do with the metagame most people are playing… just stop that ridicioulus nonsense.
So why are you here wasting your time then? I’d value my time better than this with that mindset. Which is also again why I wont be playing wotlkc without RDF. Because I value my time far better then this crap.
Rofl are you seriously this daft? What if people actually like playing those classes/specs?
Look at that. You even know the reason why people want RDF in the game…
Ahh so your nothing other then a sheep. I hear you… jeeez.
Thanks! That’s a couple of exellent reasons as to why RDF should be in the game.
Every single reason you stated is very much already an issue on any “alive” server. Without RDF.
Lol IF Cataclysm classic comes, which I highly doubt, it wont be in 2 years. More like 1 year.
Jesus. Have you played tbcc at all? You aren’t aware of all the dam layering issues, where they obviously can not put everyone in the same group on the same server…
Ofc you can. But, at least I, find it very strange that you do though since you consider this such a waste of time.
It’s not “us guys” that lost. It’s the classic game that has lost. You just wait and see…
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why do you just quote some of what i have written instead of it all to try and fit whatever you are trying to say. create your own groups if u cant find a group instead of wasting time looking for one i think no one sees a non meta spec or melee or whatever looking for members and thinking to them self hell no i wont be joining that group cus that person is not playing the meta lol. and no a alive server does not have a problem making a dungeon group. and yes the we want lfd in wrath classic lost since its not coming. when wrath releases no class or spec should have any issue to do dungeons without LFD by either joing or creating theyre own groups
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Jesus. Why would I even bother to write something useful to you when you obviously don’t bother to read what I write…
i read what u wrote but you quote whatever fits your narrative like i said some reasons why i think lfd is bad for the game but you did not link any of that instead u call med a sheep
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If people like playing specs that people don’t want and they don’t have leadership/organization skills to make a group themselves then they should suffer the consequences instead of being a burden on others.
Lack of class balance should not be fixed by shoehorning in people, it should be fixed by rebalancing.
Reserving things is a positive, it encourages people to organize groups and with reserves you can optimize the needs of the group. You might narrow down the people you can bring but the distribution will be more fair as more needy people will have more uncontested loot.
I’ve started on launch of classic and I got more hours than you do in TBC. Layering is still the same realm, maybe not physical server, but that doesn’t matter. Kalimdor, Outland and EK might not be on the same server on a realm with no layers. Putting people from different realms on the same server is not an issue as it is what is done in battlegrounds
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