The back and forth of the LFD tool

Jesus christ dude, you need to take a break from the game, you’re treating it like a flipping job.

And this is one of the very resons Blizzard implemented the RDF in the first place, because of people like you.
Thanks for pointing that out!

Coming from one that reserves of course. I haven’t heared about even a single person that doesn’t hate HR’s. Apart from, obviously, people that does it themselves.
People like you are destroying this great game.

Are you fo real? Needy people reserving loot makes loot distribution more fair??? Do you even hear yourself? Try reading that out loud a few times. Surely even you must hear how stupid that sounds…

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where is the problem with the current lfg tool? no lfgspam/“work” is needed, just list yourself.
wotlk had no automated dungeonfinder, why should they add it now?

what do you think will happen with an automated tool? a tank will see your “off meta spec” with unenchanted gear and will instantly quit, you have to wait again. or you will get an undergeared and inexperienced tank, and your “fast 1h lfg dungeon” turns into a 2h wipefest. tanks will once again sell their “prio invite” to dps and instantly quit the dungeon to cheese the system. nobody will use the chat, like in retail, and the community will die. please, if you want woltk to become retail. just play retail if you enjoy it?

automated dungeonfinders are the worst thing ever. it wont give you any advantage, you will get much more problems than it solves.

That is absolutely not why they implemented it. A dungeon finder has been in place since the start of classic wow, through innkeepers and has changed throughout the history of wow.

If someone needs 5 items and I only need 1 item I think it’s fair that I reserve an item and let them have the 4 they need. But with the dungeon finder I’ll just need on all loot and attempt to barter for items i actually need, great system, but i dont see any alternative unless they decide to implement personal loot on top of it

That is how things worked in Vanilla to Wrath, compared to retail. Did you play all of TBCC and miss that?

Wait… Wasnt RDF added in wotlk?

People keep saying If I want it. To go play retail…

When I’m pretty sure it was part of the default package of wotlk… So it SHOULD be on classic…

So if you don’t want it… Go play your private server!

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What, you’ve spent all of WoW feeling burdened by other players?

Seriously my guy, it’s a game. Have some fun at least once in a while?

C’mon now, lmao.

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Why cant blizz just make a poll for it? over 60% yes to RFD = put it in.

Or is this a stupid idea?

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What?

I assume you mean over 50% yea lol?

[citation needed]

I’m not the biggest fan of reserving stuff, but all things considered, why not? It dampens the effect of bad luck streaks and promotes more people playing tank or heal. It’s a bargaining, and if you’re that one guy that don’t want to join a group with the tank mainly tanking to get into heroics, where’s the harm in them removing 4 (3 + the person tanking) other dps from the LFG pool?

When gearing up my warrior and wanting to craft the blacksmith weapon I reserved nethers because I could, because I tanked, and because there was a shortage of tanks. If there was no shortage of tanks it wouldn’t make much sense for tanks being able to reserve whatever they want, so it has internal checks and balances.

If you’re on the hunt for one very specific heroic dungeon item and each time it drops, some random *** player wins the rolls every time. Didn’t drop or lost the roll AGAIN? Well, better luck next day and hope you don’t get matched with others that want it. How does that ensure a more fair distribution? It doesn’t, and that’s why we have DKP in guild raids to make loot distribution more fairly distributed.

I dislike the RDF a lot. Yet, all these people replying will remind you that it was introduced late in the content cycle. To be perfectly honest it was even way worse back then as there was no cross-server play, meaning that if you do get tossed in with some nice person to play you’re wasting effort trying to be too friendly as you won’t see them again. How anyone can support this I do not know.

Do you truly believe in #NoChanges? I’m convinced if I would look through your post history I’ll find that to not be the case. So why are using this as a “common sense” argument even?

Do you only play dungeons when guildies invite you or what? I have had lots of fun doing it manually, and I do feel more burdened by being grouped with random players that have no incentive to be pro-social (read: “nice”).

It didn’t have it from the beginning, and it was a big big part of the experience of arriving in Northrend for the first time.

Yes it’s not the best of ideas to have a poll here. People on the forum is not at all representative of the average player. The average player is not as vocal as to (like I do) express my concerns here. The most enthusiastic people here are people that want LFD to be included from the start of Wrath (which is not going to happen). I’d rather talk about other stuff and not have to act like this is a hill that I will die upon.

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I could understand this in P1, but in later phases, the large majority of people are going to run dungeons for emblems only. This isn’t Vanilla or TBC where there are dungeon drops that last you a significant amount of time - I’m pretty sure there’s next to no dungeon gear even on P1 BiS lists, let alone Ulduar and later.

You all have equal chances of getting the item. If you reserve it, some random *** player won’t have a chance.

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At the very end, after everybody had played the full expansion.

Yes. Retail was ruined by the aftermath of RDF. RDF was so damaging as a tool to the longevity of the game that Blizzard nerfed it in MoP and made it so you could only enter Challenge mode manually instead of queueing for it; a system they continued with Mythic dungeons.

Wasn’t part of “Default” Wrath, at all.

Every private server includes the dungeon finder, because it doesn’t matter if the future of the game gets ruined by RDF on private servers; they’re short term and die anyway.

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ICC patch - timewise half in, contentwise I would not call ICC the end :wink:

Well, Ruby sanctum wasn’t really anything.

I think ICC sure was something :wink:
If RDF was introduced some time after ICC you could state it happened towards the end … But ICC was the apex of Wrath, and ICC and RDF was added simultaneously. It’s not at the end, not even towards the end.

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I’m going to have to disagree with that entirely.

Ruby Sanctum was a mini-raid that was added to lead the expansion into Cataclysm, and at the time Blizzard were worried that a massive content draught would cost them a lot of subs. Incidently, that was the only time a content draught didn’t cost subs.

I doubt Ruby Sanctum was the reason for that, though. Most actually forget it exists and consider the fall of the Lich King to be the end of WoTLK.

Which was also when RDF was added; at the end of the expansion.

I do not get this ICC and RDF was added the same day.

EDIT:
It sounds like you think RDF came some time after ICC, together with Ruby Sanctum maybe. That’s about half a year later.

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Yes? And ICC is considered the end of the expansion.

Again; a lot of us tend to forget that Ruby Sanctum even exists, it was essentially filler after all.