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Out of spite!

That’s what I mean. When people say ‘the community’ voted, they’re referring to a bunch of trolls whose opinions can’t be trusted.

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I can still remember one the MDI contestants saying he was looking forward to the playerbase having to suffer their own stupid votes for a change, as they let the community vote on affixes/dungeons sometimes for the competition.

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the irony is that due to tuning Grimrail was one of the most enjoyed dungeon in season.

it was short , easy and fun .

proving that in reality its never about dungeon - its always about tuning.

look at SBG this tier - nobody complains its old dungeon - because of how easy it is.

in fact i bet that if given choice which dungeons to run most would choose SBG and Temple this season . and if possible they would completly ignore new dungeons.

maybe its time to stop putting new dungeons into m+ alltoghether - and just use old one just tuned properly .

Not a fan myself, nightmare in the carriages. So many affixes were awful.

Then again I don’t like any of the recycling of old dungeons into the M+ circuit outside of optional extras as TW M+. Did my 20s for teleports and pretty much quit the expansion and went and played another game.

The train was one of my highest timed keys (23 vs 24 junkyard/streets). Still hated it. Camera ducked big time in there and tons of affixes were very unfun.

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‘Short’ was the only thing it had going for it.

No choice of routes or pulls, tight spaces, and awful camera angles. Once I had it timed at + 20 for the teleport, I rerolled it any time I got it.

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