Micro cc is out of controll*
what u can kick, stun etc, i dont think anyone is complaining about feral currently, except of his comp Fmp (because u have not enough kicks for both)
still way higher than you, and have the experience, to know that the change to make every stun on the same dr, is just stupid.
CC is CC regardlessâŚ
Who said anything about ferals? Druids have one of the best CC toolkits in the game. Not to mention the best CC (Cyclone)
If I tried, I could get higher. I only play WoW pvp with a friend when heâs on, which is not common, and even then we only go for 1800 for Tmog. Never actually tried for higher. But beating 2k MMR teams easily with not so much effort, makes me believe weâre able to get there without a problem. But hey, you continue to ârating bashâ and act superior. 
The classic !
Itâs the truth though.
" [The CC in this game has never been this bad] "
Never play mop, youâll have a heart attack 
Itâs worse now, because thereâs a lot more of it.
no, there were more at the time and the âdrâ was worse than today
But yes today there is too much stun, a simple solution would be to increase the cooldown of the CDs
Longer cd = less cc
If we are going to have this much Micro CC, then DRs should be Full/QUARTER/Immune. Simply because even a 1 second stun followed up by something ike HoJ is still resulting in a 4 second total stun time.
MoP is nothing compared to now. Go and actually play MoP(privately), and leave the nostalgia alone.
I played mop, and the cc was much more horrible than now.
https://youtu.be/L3J-dGwW2V0?si=p336ZYhlJ4Bkxf-5
The mop gameplay was cool (probably best gameplay al time in wow), but there were lots of flaws like cc/dr/instant, and it was worse than today
The truth will appear in classic mop, you will see
It wasnât worse, because there were no âaoe micro ccâ, 20 grips, static totems, blast wave, 2 sec no dr frost nova
No 50% haste procs with 0.8 sec clone/sheep/fear casts
Every class isnât dh with aoe abilities in single target
Landing cc wasnât punishing, now mage/hunter must not to push to cc healer and spam dmg and use micro cc on targets they hit
I never said that the micro cc on df was good, I just said that the cc and instant in mop were horrible as well and I donât want to see that again
time will prove me right, bkack here in 2025/2026 in mop classic
it was from the s3 sl that they added lots of passives which reduced the cc and gave even more instant
and less instant
Howâs instant casts are bad? Casting 2 seconds and getting los, cced or kicked is better?
There were never longer cd on cc spells, it was more easy to apply, but there werenât billions of debuffs and random damage procs which kills in 3 seconds
What am I looking at in this video? All I see is a DK freely moving about most of the game. Sure, he gets rooted a few times and cycloned, but try running freely in the game today. Pushback, stun stun stun, root root root, fear fear fear. Mages still have incredible control.
Itâs painful to watch top players playing at high ratings. Just seen supatease playing fury. 70% of gametime he was in some cc. Playing fury seems very painful. Thats why all those insta spells and mobility are in game.
Is not an issue for warriors anyways? Their combat stance reduces it considerably and when DR starts to kick in, it becomes irrelevant?
I dont know what and when kicks in, but I wont play fury for sure, nonstop CC and slows.
The instant casts are bad because thatâs why there are micro cc and instant cc to counter that
instant casts are also bad because the skillscap which consists of knowing how to simulate a throw or knowing how to kick no longer exists
the paladin of his team is cc the whole game and the dk this heal with a sacred power in passive, frankly who wants to see such a horror again
Do you also remember the monk heal with the anti stun every 30 seconds? passive? no it was horrible
you can be nostalgic, but remember the vile things
Bruh, u said âdruidâ this can mean anything, and everyone at higher rating is complaining about the Wild Attunement talent on feral, because feral is forced to spam clone everyone, and making a snowball effect
Clone on rdruid was for years the same, but became now a problem, because every other cc got nerfed, and rdruid got Ai trees on top of that, means, if he getting kicked on clone, he dont get as much punished for it, as in previous xpac, because the Ai trees keeping im alive
and about boomys i dont know, i dont see many currently, and he is most likely the main target, i dont know i love to zugzug boomys
Okay, so you are telling me, that u never really tried, to go into the meta, or in the game itself
means, u havent learned the meta, or why the game is how it is
for example, i play sometimes league, really casually cuz j4f im a low Silver/Gold player, DO YOU think, that i know anything about the game?
how to freeze a lane, what every champ can do, which champ is op and which champ isnt? NO because im not deep in to the meta, like u said, i dont even try to climb in league
i miss so much game understanding, WHICH IS NORMAL, because u only can get the understanding when u actually care and invest time into this game
and the example that u want the cc on every dr is the best example, because u cant even imagine the conseguenze out of this change
there are people with more xp than me what are saying the same, and these kind of peoples are dedicated to this game, and wont lie to you when it comes to the cc suggestion which is just terrible.
Wow had Cc chain classes Since Tbc, and it wasnt a Problem for Everyone
BUT when classes are stacked with an high amount of Micro cc, while they are also doing Unhealable Dmg in the burst phase, this is when micro cc becomes a problem
it´s dead on arrival, i think nobody really cares about cata and mop here^^
i played it too, but to be fair, only to 2.2 because i started playing pvp in season 13 as a Holy priest, and i have to say yes and no
against classes like Warlock it was Terrible, but most of the Locks abused a bug where they could get 3x Kicks
and the high amount of dmg from eles shamys was most likely because they abused a bug when they equiped a Tbc set and Put Flametongue on the Weap they kept the bonus from the 2 set what was 25% more overall dmg or something lol
2s in mop was anyway a meme, when u faced Holy priest Mage u could litteraly /afk
but everything else was alright? i wouldnt say as worse as Df, df is worse in so many circumstances, alone the fact, that u just can win by doing pve rotation without setups.
Ferals stun like Rogues now, not to mention having cyclone and other forms of CC as well. Druids overall have had the best CC in-game since the beginning.
That is correct. I tried for 2k many years ago but not bothered since then. I just do it for tmogs now. CC ruins the fun for me. I enjoy PvE now, and leveling another class for PvE, something new (a spriest). PvP is ruined for me because of all these annoying micro CCâs, and it puts me off even wanting to try for higher.