The decline is here

I would like to add, that when majority of realm population is formed by Horde, majority of Horde is formed by Orcs. Orcs have 30% stun resistance. So where Horde has full CC, Alliance is already in great disadvantage and that might be also the reason, why eventually horde breaks trough any defenses.

We did the exact same thing on Sunday. Went to everlook, roamed for 10m killing lone hordes, we were a raid of ~25. I kid you notā€¦some 100-200 hordes came and just wiped us in 5sec and then camped us. Yeah, we had to logoutā€¦ Iā€™m not even considering thorium point or any other hotspots even with 40 man raidsā€¦itā€™s pointless, believe me.

Unfortunately this just enforces what Iā€™ve been saying.

well my friends at shazzrah ally was lvl 50 warrior and paladin when p2 launch and they are now lvl 60 with prebis gears, so if you know how to play, you can reach BRD or other dungeons too. just dont rush at horde on the way try to use different path to dungeonsā€¦

A lot of people stopped leveling alts untils BGs are released, activity went from leveling alts to pvping most of the time and so decline in AH, and so also people like you quit. Thereā€™s good example from some alliance guy screaming about how Gandling is bad and Horde populated, but if you look now into last 7 and 14 days, Horde is outnumbered by ally on Gandling.
As I understand you play PvE server and went to check PvP server with your PvE strategies. Get the f out of towns and ask people ā€œDo you have alt? When did you stopped leveling it? When was the last time you put something on AH? Why are the prices increasing and where this all demand comes from???ā€
Sighā€¦

Im horde on ZT, we are living the same hell as most allysā€¦ I canā€™t farm more than 5 minutes before being ganked. So I donā€™t farm anymore, a lot of horde player has already simply stop/leave the server. Thereā€™s basically nothing on our horde side AH because we canā€™t farm.
Overpopulation+umbalance = this, a slowly but surely dying serverā€¦

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If you have friends on shazzrah Iā€™m sure they tell you how it is to play ally here so no need for me to elaborate further :slight_smile:

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This is true, unbalance and overpopulated servers make it impossible to do something about it eventually.

What you said though also points out its not ā€œā€¦because of the hordeā€. Its because of people. You also go out with a 25 raid killing lone hordes. And then a horde group that outnumbers you in the same magnitude kills you again. Only downside for alliance is, you can not come back from it because the lack of numbers, but you do exactly the same thing.

And its like that on all servers. Even if eventually the horde will end up with the bigger group and thus winning, the alliance also roams with gank squads killing lone players, no matter if they are level 50 questing or not.

Its not a horde mentality problem, its in general how people play, no matter the faction. The ā€œcauseā€ of the problem is massive overpopulation in a game world that had way less players in mind and can not keep this many properly spread out.

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ā€œMograine is more than OKā€ Itā€™s a 70-30 server and youā€™re a horde player.

Dont worry mate, itā€™s not just your side, I wont play this ā€œhighā€ level character either, because leveling is annoying enough without Alliance ganking me.

I 100% agree that this type of ā€œwpvpā€ is sht. I loved the vanilla style of generally going 1v1 or 1v2ā€¦lower scale wpvp. The thing is we finished our raid early and few of us remained to try to get some honor (Iā€™m rank1 btw). I believe itā€™s the second time we tried this since p2 and failed due to numbers and personally canā€™t wait for this to end although it may never happen as the playerbase is different now.

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well they are getting hard times yea but not like 80 to 20 horde ally ratioā€¦ hordes only raid logging too believe me but allys big mistake is sitting at IF and staying afk

Thatā€™s not a mistake, those are easy HKā€™s

yea thats true many of the horde rouges killing ppl at IF and many other allys just watching them instead of helping :smiley:

Level 65 Troll from retail.

Everything checks out.

and still I gonna say the same thing, this unbalance situtation is all fault is not blizz and horde faultā€¦ blizz just did mistake with high server pop cap and allys did mistake with focusing on pve play not pvp on pvp serverā€¦ :smiley:

And they are bots, all others afk got blueshield pvp off in city.

Weird :thinking:ā€¦

Look at the post history of the OPā€¦ heā€™s a retail troll not even play Classic who is regularly starting negative and bashing threads.

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Whats the big deal? Content is finite. You will ever only have a decline. There is 0 chance for higher numbers unless something actually new comes out.

thats just wrong and a very dishonest view on the big picture my friend

i dont play retail, i barely play classic

im not bashing anything by giving a honest review, if things are bad they are bad and you are dishonest person for trying to bash me and not the real issue

that classic dies this fast was a suprise to most of us im sure