I think it needs some major tweaking. I’m at 18/20 mythic now and I can finally get my first 304 item next week. Basically 3 of my BiS are from raid, including 2 weapons. I’ll be playing with lower ilvl all the time because I can’t get 304 items for those slots as they effectively perform worse, but I can’t upgrade for a ton of weeks either. Realistically speaking we’ll have DF before I have my second mythic item complete. While I don’t think I’d be re-clearing the bosses for drops every week regardless, I think it should not be this many kills to upgrade an item just so I can have 304 gear for M+…
You could argue however that you would never be able to obtain the mythic equivalent of said item regardless if you don’t kill a lot of mythic bosses weekly anyway.
If anything Dinar gives you an option to obtain these mythic equivelants, but at a much slower progression.
If it wasn’t for dinar, would you say you would have the mythic items or even their HC counterparts right now?
How is shadowlands any less rng then other expansions besides season 4? And if you’re basing that entire point of view on 1 season out of 4 then you’re also doing it wrong.
I’d still be running the heroic counterparts, or whatever sims higher. The problem is that I need mythic raid gear for M+, and dinar solves it in a terrible way. Yes it beats nothing, but I much rather not be farming raid for M+ gear.
So you’re saying you’d rather not have the option to upgrade atleast 1 item to mythic equivelant because you cannot stop yourself from grinding raid to obtain a very minute upgrade in M+?
You do know you won’t all of a sudden time keys you weren’t able to just because of a weapon turning from 298 to 311 right?
This whole scheme of “I need this for X content” is rather false, you definitely don’t need it, unless you’re missing timers but less than a minute in near perfect runs. The gain from those “bis” weapons is because of their effects, not because of their ilvl.
They gave people who don’t mythic raid often a slower chance to obtain a mythic item and people still manage to complain that it’s too slow.
It’s like you rather not have the option then having a slow alternative towards the option I don’t understand that concept.
In case the context wasn’t clear, I shouldn’t have to be farming Mythic raiding for gear that’s BiS in M+.
You know that every bit of DPS makes it easier right?
Edit: I don’t even have the luxury of 311, 304 is the max for my weapons…
Not true. Having a bit more stamina, or that little bit more DPS can ensure that a certain kill is achieved a little bit sooner, or you survive a 1 shot that you otherwise wouldn’t have. You don’t need to be play perfect to benefit from this.
Long story short, failing a run because of a mistake (abandon key), or not timing it because you still made mistakes, but didn’t hit a massive roadblock, is a big difference. I much rather have that little bit of extra gear so we can actually practice higher key levels, rather than having to abandon something all the time.
The difference between a few ilvls is huge at higher key levels.
But you’re saying the dinar system needs to be reworked because you find it too slow to obtain mythic equivalent items that you otherwise wouldn’t be able to obtain anyway.
So what you’re saying is that you still prefer the dinar system over not having it in it’s current implementation but would like for it to be sped up?
Ppl before dinars had to do 10+ weeks for one items if unlucky
What’s the difference now, it is actually a positive change.
I raided entire Season 3 with full vault and only received my Gavel 3 weeks before season ended I don’t even know how many weeks that is…
Yes, I’m saying that it beats nothing, aka it’s better than not having it.
The problem is not necessarily that it’s too slow to acquire mythic raiding gear, the problem is that it’s too slow to acquire raid gear required for mythic+ content.