You said “Required for Mythic+ content”.
The only thing required is you bieing lvl 60.
The only required is full green gear (or even heirlooms) you obtain from leveling to 60.
You don’t even need a covenant to participate in M+ content.
You don’t even need legendary(s) to participate in M+ content.
So no, raiding gear is not “required” for M+ content.
It only gets into play at high to very high key levels.
Eh, if we would’ve had resonant reservoir on the healer in my +21 upper kara, it would have been in time.
Raidlogging refers to having nothing to do but raids tho, not the fact of needing a piece of gear from raids.
And it still refers to people who are only logging in for raiding since not interested in doing other things.
You’re being pedantic. No, you don’t need the best gear for Mythic+, but that’s also not realistic. I’d also argue that the majority of the player base can’t do lower mythic keys in the bare minimum mythic dungeon ilvl requirement.
In order to time M+ you need gear that’s higher than the minimum requirement. At some points it’s not realistic, and at some points it’s numerically impossible.
You can go into the details of what “need” means technically, but we’re talking realistically, because there’s no way you’ll be doing +15 keys in a group that that minimum ilvl.
At this point it’s a dumb discussion between us. That has totally nothing to do with the Dinar system 
So I’ll end this on my side by saying this.
You said raiding gear is “required” for ANY type off Mythic+ content.
Which we all know is untrue.
The moment somebody needs a Heroic/Mythic raid item to clear a +2 is the moment that person is in trouble… We weren’t even talking about timing a key or not, just participating.
Ofcourse higher/stronger gear helps ppl that are incapable off doing any time/difficulty based content.
But that was never the point.
Remove loot from raids and see how fast the raiding community would collapse.
Quick sidenote.
We have “Raidloggers” in our Heroic raid and they are littarly at Tank level DPS wise.
They are 10+ ilvls below the rest, who runs M+ for vault upgrades.
So even raiders need M+ items 
Yup. It 100% works both ways. I just responded on the message that this is only coming from M+ players. Which is also 100% not true.
What Inm said is that this community is the only one complaining about it tho.
I don’t see threads from raiders complaining that they have to do something else than raids.
Then again maybe I missed them.
It varies from person to person, which is why I didn’t specify higher keys. Again, you’re being pedantic and now you’re arguing for the sake of arguing. Go waste someone else’s time.
I don’t think there are threads.
Doesn’t mean they aren’t complaining.
The raidloggers in our guild just say “I don’t like M+, I won’t do it” and call it a day.
Doesn’t mean they aren’t complaining, they just won’t be BiS and they accept this.
There are plenty of M+ players likeminded.
Plenty of raiders complain, mainly raidloggers complain about doing m+
Where are there threads asking not to be forced to do M+?
They will have the option to buy both, I said it wrong. Also helps raiders who are unlucky with drops.
You have to chose one or another. Within some time you should have anything anyway.
An option would be to increase the Valor cap the higher the score is.
Yeah looking good with current raiding activity huh? Just let people do what they want
These are just a few out of the many.
Bruh, a post from 2020 and one from 2021?
Are there that few?
I’m just grabbing a few posts at random that appeared with a google search.
Dunno, i’ve seen them but did not really bookmark them incase someone wanted to see them, most of the complaints I saw was mostly in guild chatt from said members when we asked them to atleast get their weekly keys done because we where progressing.
And its not like raiders need to do m+ for the best gear, infact m+ gear is in many cases a major downgrade from 311 ilvl raid loot.
Raiders are also doing NM and HC.
My raid has big troubles clearing Mythic.
M+ is the highest ilvl gear I can get