The Hunt should be pruned from Demon Hunters

They just don’t need it. It’s such a hard hitting spell on top of all the other spells that it just overloads them with the ability to kill things…

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Or you could…I don’t know, time a defensive around a 1.5 min cooldown that has a cast time.

It’s also stopped by roots/cc too.

Demon Hunters have needed some kind of execute ability ever since they were released (most other melee classes have one). The fact it’s on a 1.5 minute cooldown, can be lined and has an actual cast time (unlike most other instant executes) is already balancing it enough.

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It’s also stopped by roots/cc too. don’t try evaluate on excuse why it exists. They don’t need an execute, they have highest mobility in this game.

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What if your only defensive is also on a 1.5 min cd? Then what?
What do you pop for essence break? How about metamorphosis? How about average dps during demon essence? The problem with DH is their sustain is so high, that it feels like an average burst, and on top of that they also have 3-4 REAL burst CDs AND a MS effect. You need to press something for each one or you get melted. But most other classes either don’t have enough deffs, or if they do and counter any setup the DH does, they lose the sustain dps race anyway. Happened many times. They just win by dampening and pve anyway.

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the hunt isnt even their hardest hitting ability at this point lol

death sweep w/ essence break (40 sec cd) crits for 200k+, hunt doesnt even come close.

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I agree, the hunt isn’t a problem at all, and other abilities in the game are hitting for well above 200k and are either 1. instant or 2. ranged.

Essence break is only a 4 second duration buff, so is easily counterable by moving away from the DH/employing CC/snares/roots in that exact window.

A single entangling root (instant), for example, utterly nullifies this burst window.

I appreciate it sucks to get hit by an essence burst combo, but there are far worse offenders in the game currently (hello Assassination Rogue abilities, Windwalker one shot combo, Hunter rapid fire burst combos).

I can assure you also, that an essence burst combo is difficult to pull off because, for example, you require far more than 2 buttons and 0 set up. You normally have to 1. Stun the target (to ensure they get hit by the actual cone of Essence Burst, otherwise someone can simply move away and dodge its effect entirely), 2. Use Essence Burst, 3. Immediately follow that up with a Death Sweep.

Ideally you want to be hitting them whilst Metamorphosis is active as well, which requires 1. An eyebeam cast as additional set up (kickable), or 2. a 3 minute cooldown Metamorphasis itself.

Outside of Metamorphasis, Blade Dance hits for far less than what you’ve described above, even with Essence Break applied, so these alarming 200k crits are far more reliant on set up than people realize.

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Jesus dude could you be any more bias

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your post is so delusional and biased i don’t even need to check, i already KNOW you main DH

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Yup.

1.6 cr, 215 games, 108-107 W/L. Classic.

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Essence break needs further nerfs, specially on the multiplier.

The Hunt Dot should’t also hit at the impact timeframe, only like start ticking 2 seconds after impact.

Personally, then a 100k hunt then i think is okay for a 1.5 min cd after the changes before. Else Blizzard could tune th mastery scaling from hunt with the talent that all of dh dmg is chaos.

Or just nerf it in pvp.

DH has only just gotten a wider range of abilities, and it works well in pve, so why outright damage its pve to nerf pvp? The seperate balancing was to make this not nessercary.

lol this is my alt which I only just picked up to learn for Dragonflight (hence a load of games to learn it).

My point still stands; mechanically Essence Break + Death Sweep as a combo requires more complexity than a whole host of other abilities which are both ranged and/or instant and require no such setup.

Let’s be honest here, people won’t be happy until Demon Hunters are nerfed to the point of unplayability…and then they’ll start crying about the next class ad infinitum.

Other classes need far more tuning before Demon Hunters are touched again.

A list off the top of my head - Rogue damage + their excessive defensives/CC, Demonology Warlock faceroll DPS, Windwalker Burst Damage, Evoker Healing throughput compared to other healers (though Resto Druids are above them on some ladders, so probably need adjusting too).

I can see you’ve achieved nothing since Shadowlands mr Lockfromwish (maybe it’s harder to pay for boosts now), but if anything i’d rather face a DH in PVP than lots of other classes, as they can be rooted/slowed/snared and have zero ways to remove most of them; thereby making them laughably easy to counter unless you’re bad and just stack on top of allies to get cleaved down.

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sl was litterly last season. also wtf is that argument?

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nahh you cant be serious

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I was merely pointing out that, whilst he likes to quote season stats (regarding this specific character), if we explore that avenue, then he hasn’t even played this season as priest, so his perspective is irrelevant.

Certainly, he could be using other characters, but he decided to reference my alt, so I simply returned the favor.

Both statements are factually and mechanically accurate.

The Hunt is not instant; nor does it work without a direct line to the enemy.

It also has an extremely distinguishable/obvious sound effect associated to it, unlike many other abilities which deal greater damage; which if anything makes it even easier to use a defensive/CC/snare when the opposing player is triggering it.

Just that thois point is irrelevant.

a player who can reach conistantly good reasults in any season has good amount of gameknowlege and understandment.

there is a clear bias regarding to your post. The essence break multipliers are a huge deal for a class that already has insane conistantcy in dmg output.

Dude even stole one of my mogs but made it worse, smh smh brother.

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