after doing the new raid in lfr, I feel strongly that the raid loot system needs to change. having a select amount of items from a raid boss that is shared over the entire raid group, doesnt seem fair or worth the effort of going into a raid and having nothing to truly show for it other than crests and a few valor stones. I’ve played other MMO’S where the loot system for raids is indivdual, where every person who partakes in a fight of a boss, has their own loot for that boss, and can be traded with other members of that raid, which seems way more appealing than going into a raid and getting nothing, and seems way more appealing than how it works in wow, where you can end up with aboslutely nothing. I just dont see the point of a raid loot system where the same few people will consitenly win items, and a good portion will get nothing. I feel like this system pushes some people out of raiding cos there’s no real point to bothering with it, because you’ll likely get nothing, and there’s no point in putting the time in, in hopes that you might get something. I’d rather the garanteed chance I will get something, becuase this system feels like loot boxes but I’m not paying for the chance to win with money, I’m paying with my time.
edit: I just dont find the appeal in the raid loot system. it doesnt seem fair or worth the time
I absolutely agree with you. It’s entirely unfair and raids can take a long time especially if people are experiencing it for the first time and unaware of mechanics.
For real. Let everyone get a piece of loot Blizzard. -.-
would be nice if there is chance for guaranteed at least 1 item throught whole raid (but that item guaranteed you get on the end only if you dont get anything else - type of rolling what type of item u gonna get - like slot machine - also making sure it is tinsy bit higher then what u have in this slot lets say 444il but u get 448 so its not too much but at least something )
No, they also took away the bad luck protection personal loot came with.
Plus if someone NEEDS on an item (Despite not needing it at all) they’re much less likely to trade it than if they got it randomly. A lotta people spite need cus of bad luck.
No need to look for other MMOs. That used to exists in wow for 10 years. But they changed it for DF.
Why ? Because people complained that they got something. But 80% of the time it was useless.
Because probability.
You post with a DK. Plate. If you use personal loot the table is : All the plates + rings + necklaces + capes. Turns out that threre a lot more rings/accesories than plate. So you end up looting ring after ring after ring.
With GL you get the whole loot table. So the chance of getting a ring is low. But, with the drawback that you can loot some mails you cant use.
Now, consider the raid : (A) with PL if you are in a raid and everyone gets a ring they cant use, its wasted loot. Or (B) if you are in a raid you 100% for sure get a drop someone can use.
That is what people complained about in SL. That is what we got. Blizzard listened to the players, and gave them what they wanted.
Tbh there’s no point in any pve content but delves unless you want Mythic gear. Delves give GUARANTEED loot. And they’re easier than LFR even on a +8 to boot.
Correct. But its still RNG. You cant target what piece you want, and you can only have 4 guaranteed pieces of loot per week (remember you need keys for that).
M+ will remain infinitely farmabe. So M+ will continue to be the go-to way to gear up.
But you present a very true statement : WHY do you want to gear up ? That is the question. And the answer is : to do the content you want to do (PvE wise). So enjoying whatever it is people do is what is most important. Gear is … meh… who cares…
Yup, the loot system have been atrocious for too long.
Least back when we had personal loot, the odds for you getting that one specific item you wanted would be 50%… after 13 attempts. About the same with group loot.
4 months or raiding and you still aren’t guaranteed to get what you want. That’s not fun, that’s a job.
Why i liked DF S3, the gearing process weren’t too slow which lets you get to the content you wanted in a more respectable time. And for the power users, play alts.
