I used to like marvel movies but after endgame it feels like those B movies from back in the day 
cringe
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I had more issue with the fact itās a particular flavour of gay, aka overly effeminate, apparently in blizzards world view gay men canāt be masculine.
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Oh, ESG funding is definitely a large part of the problem and something Iām firmly against.
Iām crossing my fingers that the pendulum will swing back to somewhere more balanced since it isnāt healthy for practically every form of entertainment to be filled with the exact same messaging. It really stifles creativity.
I used to really enjoy going to the cinema, though the amount of heavy handed and rather obvious agendas simply makes it off-putting outside of some rare exceptions.
Oh, definitely. Words cannot express how much I loathe it - including the fact that more dresses for men have been datamined for the upcoming seasonal event for Valentineās Dayā¦with no equivalent for those of us who want to dress like a guy. Granted, thereās still a chance that it might change between now and then but it does get grating when such stereotypes are pushed to the forefront despite being entirely artificial.
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Itās as someone mentioned above, lazy tick box inclusion. Itās probably why thereās no gay orcs, Iām saying this as a straight guy, why only the pretty races. Whereās two absolute meatheads that love each other and decapitating stuff with axes together. His and his great axes to the valentines event 
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His downfall is still his fault, not the people who didnāt chose culling,
Realistically itās your opinion as a player who knows all the meta knowledge about universe and itricates of plague, not jaina and uther in this time period.
It also stated that not all stratholme citizens were infested, which makes arthas decision even more questionable
No, itās not how refusal of participiating in genocide especially with minimal information about it works, but i guess your moral compass is twisted enough
Into characters which moral orientir you like
Df is not about it, primalists are not shown as 100% bad, fyrakk is shown like it, but itās not wrong, characters who 100% morally wrong exist irl too, they called psychopaths, which fyrakk is
From afrasiabiās pov in bfa period sheās morally grey, so no itās not how she supposed to be portrayed by authorās design lmao
Itās just magical girl style sets, you dig too much into it, and valentine day is not about being gay
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Based on this statement alone. It doesnāt surprise me you like the state of modern wow. You like shallow plot thatās cool enjoy. As much as the sigma clowns on the internet want to say they are, no man is an island. You are a result not only of your nature but the environmental factors and people you surround yourself with. Arthas is to blame for Arthasās actions, however if you abandon your friend in their darkest moment for your own vanity youāre a bad friend/mentor.
It doesnāt matter that not all citizens were currently infected. Enough were it was also the largest city which they had also managed to contain FOR NOW!
A zombie outbreak like this is not a normal style virus that if you leave them and they survive they are no longer infected. Itās a 100% fatal virus and it has no possibility of burning out because the dead are able to move around further spreading infection. The only responsible thing as a ruler to do in that situation is burn the entire city, every man woman and child. Itās horrific, it should weigh on your conscience forever but it is also the only way to prevent essentially the end of the world.
They new alot about the plague at this point, they new it was 100% effective they had managed to stop the infected grains from going to other cities however they were too late for stratholme. Again this is the a mature writing style. You should recoil at the atrocity Arthas committed but you should also be able to recognise it was necessary, it should make you think, would you be able to do something like that if you had to, somthing that horrific. Thatās called good story telling, making the audience question themselves.
No you could go full denial with one of them and have the other recognise what happened, you could do lots with it, what they did instead was just go, Arthus did a bad and we did a good and left.
Primalist are shown as 100% bad until they want to turn them good then what they did or was done to them is forgotten about. See Vyranoth, I hate the titans, the other dragons locked me away for millennia drove my brother insane to the point I needed to kill him, but I guess we all family now letās all be goodies together.
Shallow kiddy writing with zero depth, there are no consequences for any actions, and by consequences, I mean how many nightelves humans and dragons did Vryanoth and her forces kill before she suddenly decide to be the goody now. Being the bad guy 20m ago is forgotten about cause now youāre the goody that does good things that makes us all A FAMILY, letās conveniently forget about our 4 dead siblings happy happy hug time guys.
itās cool how entitled you are, but itās not my opinion, itās writers opinion, iām just media literate enough to understand this simple thing, arthas is not a manchild, not a kid, heās a grown man, a prince, all his actions are his decisions, and he must be held accountable to them, you just donāt understand it because you fail to grasp concept called āaccountabiltyā
How would you justify him burning down ships of his own army btw?
Zombies are very visible and arthas could define which wheat is infected and which is not. To spare yourself a trouble of defining he just killed many citizens in their sleep.
He didnāt try to evaluate number of infected, he just slaughtered the whole town, heās wrong not because of the decision but because he didnāt even tried to make up alternative, you fail to grasp it too, jaina and uther even said something along the lines āthere must be another wayā, arthas couldnāt bother about another ways.
ārealisticallyā zombie outbreaks are much easier contained than normal viruses because patients are very visible.
no they are not, they shown as rebels who deny titanās order, they are very radicalized about it but itās not a purely evil position
there werenāt implication on why exactly fyrakk became bonkers, idk maybe it described in new book.
Vyranoth prime motivation is saving of azeroth and abolishing titanās ways, primalists were created by raszageth who were much more radicalized.
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Burning down the ships when he was functionally insane out of his mind in northrend but yes he was doing evil stuff Iām not an apologist for Arthas, you say youāre media literate but have no concept of nuance at all.
You know the infected didnāt turn immediately, there was no was no alternative.
and saying there must be another way is not offering an alternative. You also donāt have the luxury of time. Itās a childish notion to sit there going, thereās got to be something else we can do, no not necessarily, most of the time in life you donāt have a good option you just have a worse option.
Iām guessing all the shilling for blizzās bad writing came with a large amount of copium.
I could also cover blizzard ineptitude when it comes to a cohesive plot e,g; where did the primalists came from? How did this gigantic organisation just poof into existence? What was the actual end going, just free the incarnates? How did they know of their existence since the aspects and titan keeps were keeping it a secret? How did they find the dragon isle to free thunder chicken when even the dragons couldnāt return?
Theres also a difference between Marvel fans like me who grew up reading the comics and Marvel fans who just watch the latest eye candy churned out by a studio butchering well known storylines
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If itās just magical girl style sets then why are all the usual suspects on social media treating it as a way to point score and celebrate the game being āmore gayā even though femininity isnāt actually what a lot of gay men (myself included) are attracted to or want to be associated with?
Another day another agenda written with Chat GPT to get smooth brains arguing amongst themselves.
It never fails here.
And us smooth brains welcome you back O king of us all. 
I cannot understand how after going through decades of war, constant fight for survival, races fighting against other races and themselves, weād end up with quests about gay centaurs and baking cakes. The writersā self inserting point of view of the world and the appeal of the ESG money is so disgustingly obvious.
Because yes, we do have gay centaurs, and gay dragons too.
Also you should have stopped answering to that lunatic after his 1st reply. Itās obvious his brain is off.
But you said that heās 100% right for doing culling, where is
The only citizens who were infected are those who used wheat in meal
Yes there wasnāt because arthas started genocide before jaina/uther could propose something
Copium, shilling, cool buzzwords
It wasnāt explained but their notable characters are implied to be ex twilight hammer, alas its a plot hole
Dragon isles are not a secret, raszageth could manipulate elements after cataclysm damaged her prison, incarantes are like lord elementals but dragons
Dragons always could return, they just wont, because whole isle was in hybernation state
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Iām not that terminally online to know about gays celebrating magical girl sets, dude
Yes, because it was a necessary evil. Again, look at the context of the situation, thereās no alternative here. Iām not saying everything he did post that was ok and heās just a good boy really, no, his actions were his own, the point is not about Arthas itās about the other character not being able to look inwards to see how they could have changed the outcome. Because funnily enough to grow and show depth you need to look inwards and think about the things youāve done or been around or people in your life and think about how you could improve or do things differently.
Using the grain is the initial source of infection, the infected then infect others after that. Which is why itās almost impossible to stop once the city is no longer sealed, and the longer you wait the more chance you have someone will escape the quarantine, thus destroying the eastern kingdom.
Youāre wrong, they said there must be an alternative, gave no other options then spoke about their morals then arthas and uther argued more, then they just dipped.
Thatās not a plot hole itās a complete collapse of the narrative. How do you secretly develop this gigantic army, where are you getting your resources aka food and arms. amassing an army of this scale is hardly unnoticeable, but let me guess shhh guys donāt think about it.
Where was that established? The primalists are made up of species that didnāt exist when thunder chicken was roaming the world, the dragons and titans kept them a secret, so who told them about thunder chicken in the first place?
where did it say that, in all the ingame conversation the dragons could not return, any dragon that was not on the isles when it went into stasis could not return there. So again how did the primalist find the place?
Tbf, I as OP welcome their engagement. Keeps the topic up on the front page 
In the context where arthas refused both jaina and uther outright there wasnāt alternative, yes, but itās still arthasās fault
Its not how this plague works, the only infected are those, who ate grain, it didnāt spread via patients, the real threat was all of stratholme becoming part of scourge army because plagueās purpose is making living undead soldiers.
The twist is stratholmeās infection true purpose is to lure arthas in northrend, its malganis scheme and nerāzulās prophecy, because scourge even without stratholme had enough soldiers to crush lordaeron
Well yes they couldnāt make up alternative for 10 seconds of arthasās rant lmao
Why you think that they were large secret, primalists are a collection of savage tribes fueled by magic (elemental magic).
Its established that they are shamans and raszageth in dracthyr questline says that her prison started to shatter after cataclysm, primalist leader is grim totem tauren.
Tbh they are not even that large mighty army because they were basically crushed after 10.0 and in 10.1 our enemies are sundered flame and in 10.2 flame druids
iām trying to evolve this topic into something more intellectual than circleadmiring and āMarvel bad futur badā rant, give me a break
Actually, you are trying to derail the discussion by moving the talk away from the topic I created. If it means so much to you to āmake it more intellectualā, feel free to hit the āCreate Topicā button on the main forum and make your own topic then. 