No sane tank would join a +15 with 2.2k requirement cause that was a big signal someone was being boosted cause high up requirements for something low like that.
For 15s you get a decent number of applications because people want to clear for weekly.
And the part about elitism I donât get. Are you baiting?
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I have seen the light. I know the true identity of the serpent and its name is M+.
For all I care, sure.
Is reading really that hard?
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Pretty sure your logs are missing something, Iâm checking my SoA logs for a couple of 18s and it shows 6.5k dps for me and 6.3k for the other two players while in reality we were all above 8k.
Iâm trying to figure out what is missing but I canât, maybe itâs the seasonal anima powers?
But regardless, we were just starting third boss and we only had like 9 minutes left, we wouldnât have timed.
Sure. But you dont care when someone elses key gets downgraded.
And gear that would have been fine.
Itâs really this sort of attitude why I HATE absolutely HATE stuff like M+
It turns people into horrible egocentric dirtbags.
Well in this case I see it as karma.
When I was doing KSM on my priest in season 1 you definitely had a load of tanks applying for +15s.
You can dig and easily find the main you donât need raider io.
Yeah. Not really the same though.
Donât know where are you getting your data from, but I already have I think 5 or 6 of them at 15 (I miss SD, DoS and PF I think and as I remember). I didnât play for like 2 months though, older key completions from week1 of season2 might not be shown for you. No worries though, in week or two I will be sitting in 16-18s already with my 230 bear 
but you can keep the toxicity for yourself and your pug groups, must be super enjoyable to play with you
I donât know if youâre just saying these things to get a reaction or if you genuinely mean all of it. Having stupid requirements is one thing, but going into a key with the sole intention of wasting the time of everybody else in the group is another beast entirely. And you applaud that behaviour and call for more of it?
Imagine you make a group for a world quest because itâs one of those elite killing ones that take forever to solo and you invited someone else instead of me, and I proceeded to log my aliance character and start tagging all of the mobs away from you, purely out of spite.
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Thatâs a level 2 key in the log though?
to be completely honest this whole argument about mirroring the rio score is so utterly stupid. 
if he has no experience tanking then mirroring his DPS mainâs score wonât suddenly make him a better tank.
but it wouldâve been enough to get him invited, which would make OP very dumb indeed
Ah yes, because Iâm going to manually check each and every player without score if they might have a main connected on one of the player tracking websites, just so I donât hurt their feeling by not inviting them. While all they have to do is link their main so that everyone can see it when they hover over them.
And you have the audacity to complain about stupid expectations.
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M+ is difficult. Really difficult. ilvl is saying completely nothing when it comes to this content. I have seen it yesterday myself again in a +13. This has nothing to do with karma. 1 unexperienced player can easily deplete a key. Especially when it is a tank. That has nothing to do with elitism.
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If he wants a stupid high IO and skill to a 15 he need check it all.
I mean people here all being âbohoooo bohoooo no score how could I knowâ
I had my alt linked on my main who had 20s done in Bfa, and yet I sitted in a lot of groups que as a tank EVEN IN FREAKING +2.
People just want to overgear crap, that is it.
Well these people can finish the university and get a diploma, but does this make them smarter? No. They only become experts in particular field (hopefully lol), but it doesnât make them smarter.
When i click i get an Spires 18.