The nightmare of Delvers joining Mythic+

“Why don’t you do mythic dungeons Soul?”

points at thread and countless others like it

“Because I might run into people like this who will scream at you WoW is an MMO while ignoring the basic fundamentals of an MMO.”

But as every smug mythic player will tell you. You were born with your WoW guild and never once had to play or talk to complete strangers. Play with strangers? Preposterous, whoever heard of such a thing.

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Oh, don’t worry, they do mythic dungeons.

Matey you doing exactly that here. What you are doing here is just more of the toxicity that some player like to feed on. It gives them a better than thou complex. And at the same time you are not looking to solve the issue. Anybody can snipe for the side lines and point a finger at how bad someone is. It is a cheap attack, and sadly does not put you in a good light.

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Who does? People you don’t know?

The audacity.

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In a way you are somewhat correct in what you say but not for the reasons you state. The real problem you are facing is what Punyelf correctly pointed out and has been happening in WoW since patch 1.1

Players now have gear that they acquired from delves and somehow think the gear will carry them through mythic plus rather than player ability.

What you SHOULD be doing, as others have pointed out, is rather than come on here and throw a tantrum and look rather spiteful is try and help these players. If they are obviously needing help. Give it to them.

If they choose to ignore your advice then you do what I do. You say to them “OK I tried to help you in a polite and constructive manner, but you chose to ignore it so I’m not going to waste my time any more.”

What you don’t do however. Is come on a forum and throw your toys out the pram while tarring every delve player with the same brush.

Because that’s why I said this.

I see far too many people wax lyrical about the “social element” of WoW and MMO’s yet in the same post seem determined to be as antisocial as they possibly can outside the safety bubble of their clique. It’s almost as if they’ve forgotten, or more likely, chosen to forget, how to hit the enter button and start a conversation unless it’s just to be as toxic as they possibly can.

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buddy, let me tell you something
some delves are real hardcore ; D

i would take DPS who finished fungal folly or mycomancern caverns +11 in a blink of an eye instead of 2.500 rio 4/8 mythic raider XD

and i mean it ;D
the ammount of dung you must go thru in these dungs are nothing compared to m+
allso some missed interrupts not avoided mechs and youre donzo

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Like I could solve the issue of Delvers stumbling into Mythic+ completely unprepared. Get real. That would be Blizzard’s job.

No, that’s the community’s job.

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Then get to work!

You’re not my boss.
And we’re already doing our job by educating you, in this very thread.

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You are supposed to prepare Delvers for Mythic+ dungeons. What have you done lately to accomplish this? Looks to me like you aren’t doing anything to help anyone in any way. Hypocrite!

I don’t do mythic+ dungeons.

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Oh plz .not one of your thread is about anything positive .its all about how you got robbed by other team members because you are pro

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See? You aren’t even willing to do the bare minimum to improve the quality of this community.

It’s called being responsible.
Why would I try to educate someone on something I don’t do.
That’s equally toxic.
Seems you still need to learn a lot.

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Been there, done that. All I got in “thanks” was “omg no u toxec elitist. You dont pay my sub!” type of an answers.
While I dont outright attack anyone as some other folk. I just keep my cool, my :no_mouth: shut and see who will leave first, most of the times its the tank, a bit rarer its the healer. (in the rare occurrence I have to enter the pug scene = I pug as dps).

At least I walk at their side till the end of the dungeon without ever complaining directly to them about their mistakes. With me, they can be sure to open the treasure chest at the end of the journey, unless we get abandoned by the rest of the group. Face it: I am doing more good for this community than you would ever even attempt.

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Yep which is what I said later, if they choose to ignore it don’t try to help them anymore as you’re just wasting your time. If they’re not willing to take advice always remember you’re playing a videogame, you’re not being paid to be their tutor.

But that still doesn’t give players any right to be toxic to other players. That just brings them down to their level.

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Reduce the quality of the player base? How full of yourselves are Mythic+ players?
You spam the same bosses and instances 600 times untill you memorized everything and call it skill!

Pvp takes skill. Dungeons are a repetition game. Get over yourself please.
Delves are perfect for people who want to do PvE and not deal with people like you. If everything they should give MORE rewards in delves.

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This x 10000000000000000

I would rather run 6 non-bountiful delves for the same amount of crests on alts than pug even one m+, solely due to the ever rising level of toxicity and egotism that made me stop pugging in BfA. Not to mention I can almost certainly clear teh delves faster than I can get an invite, simply becuase My score isnt 2,5k+ and I’m “only” 623.

Elitist cryhards are killing m+ faster and harder than Blizzard ever could, and they’re too busy sniffing their own farts to realize it´s them that smell like :poop: and are keeping people away.

Without the incessant elitist toxicity driving ever more people away from M+, delves might have never even come to exist in the first place. And if delves didn´t stop @ Heroic track /runed crests, M+ participation would be even lower, because the only place to get gildeds for the average Joe that doesn´t mythic raid is +8s and higher.

So either they start reading the writing on the wall, or sooner rather than later clearing a +5 will qualify you for the .1% title, and all the while they´ll be whining about queue times, incompetent teammates and anything else that isn´t themselves killing M+. :beers:

This is not to say M+ diesn´t have significant systemic issues. But these pale in comparison to it´s biggest problem, that being the attitude of the majority of players that engage with it. We can even see it on these very forums x times daily, only in PvP and M+ discussions do you need to be above a certain arbitrary score (that varies from poster to poster depending on their own personal score) to not be attacked by some elitist f-tard for daring to have an opinion… and half of those poeple are themselves not capable of clearing 12s, but still act like they’re pushing title and only being held back by everyone else. :wink:

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