The punishmet of liking PVP

If you really like PVP, prepare to suffer, especially when it comes to getting items, I give you examples of items that are impossible to get doing PVP:

Rings: GO PVE
Trinkets: GO PVE
Cloack: GO PVE
Bracers: GO PVE
Wirst: GO PVE
Neck: GO PVE

Why can’t I get a really strong team doing only and exclusively PVP like that happens in Retail?

Why do I have to be forced to play something I DON’T LIKE??

It would be ridiculous to be at R14 with your brand new epic equipment, really solid and powerful and then see all those ridiculous pieces because the only way to be truly formidable is to do PVE, a lot of PVE to get all those pieces mentioned above that have a level similar to R14 and there is no imbalance in your team.

I know that WOW is a mainly PVE game but it is a crime that SOD did not have the decency to create a new team for PVP lovers when all their efforts focused on PVE, ignoring this community completely.

I know that this is not going to change nor will it have an impact because it is not a problem that affects a large part of the population, but I still wanted to point out the enormous defects that exist when it comes to getting equipment if your passion is really PVP.

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Don Julio’s from AV rep.

AB rep.

WSG rep.

???

This isn’t retail and PVP in Classic is, and always has been, a minigame.

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All BWL items are better then theses, now imagine when SoD stays at Naxx…

The difference in quality of the objects is going to be overwhelming and again you will be forced to do PVE, but well I know that neither the community nor Blizz care about a second category community…

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Imagine that, an item that has a chance to drop once per week is better than items you buy from a vendor.

And the difference is minimal.

So just like Classic, then?

Wrong guild?

Bloodmoon PvP Vendor.

Bloodmoon PvP but only Druid, Shaman and Paladin.

Bloodmoon PvP but only Mages, Warlocks and Priests

They should have updated PvP vendors with all slots for each class but want to force PvE.
It’s simply a bad design for PvP players.

Don’t give up, keep bringing the feedback at least we can hope they will add it for classic+

This is the problem, just Classic, SoD is not Classic, SoD should be more, too much more but it only happens in PVE not in PVP, 0 new BGs and 0 new Gear, 100% of Blizz efforts goes to PVE and that’s just cruel and disgusting…

Who does Bloodmoon nowadays?? And as u say only for few classes, rest GO PVE

Blizzard doesn’t care about PvP at all and the best way to show that is the lack of attention they have given it in SoD, all their efforts always end up in PVE, new raids, new dungeons, new items…

And it would only be necessary to talk about the Class balance, but that is for another thread…

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The argument is that you need to earn pvp gear. But its super lagging behind pve gear, most people running around with all the shiny pve gear already and pvp are not even allowed to get their weapons yet…

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Because their weapons are on-par with AQ40 weapons.

Did you play Season of Mastery? Blizzard allowed R14 from the get-go there and it was absolutely dreadful.

SoD is a test server created on the Classic engine, it is listed in the ‘Classic’ subsection of realms. You do not access SoD via it’s own launcher.

Because the majority of the game is PVE.

There has never been balance in classic, that’s why features like arena and ratings don’t exist. Vanilla wasn’t made for competitive gameplay and according to Blizzard it has never been the plan to change that, that’s why PvE remains the focus.

Of course some of us love PvP but we still need to accept the core idea of Classic and why there will never be balance.

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Because today we have a new bracket system and rank gated PvP.
As a non casual I could get my gladi weapons pretty quick while people only had MC gear.

In regards to weapons PvE gear was always behind.
The reality today is that PvP ain’t hard anymore and limited ranks.
So why should I be able to get the best stuff for the easiest grinding content to play?

Btw. majority of players always complained about bracket system and the fact that weapons are the best.
So say thanks to the whining players for the last decade that brought all the changes to pvp.

Don’t get me wrong, it’s great that PvP is easier today and people no longer need to spend months to level their rank but don’t expect the same rewards …

False, C´thun axe is better than R14 Weapons, but what will happen at Phase 7? and in the next P8? No PvP content? Only PVE? Why this punishment for PVP Players? We only want enjoy the game as we want.

SoD core is Classic, but where is the term “Discovery” in PVP? Where are new BG? And new items? Where is the discovery? Discovery is only for PVE and Blizz forces PVP players to play PVE to minmax your char, thats disgusting…

That doesn’t counter what I said. C’thun axe is the 2nd best weapon in the game (Not including Corrupted Ashbringer, which is more of a meme than anthing).

At the current rate, Phase 7 would be Naxxramas. Rank 14 will be available next phase; phase 6.

If there is a P8, that SoD has extended for longer than Classic and everything from there is unknown.

There isn’t a punishment. Playing the game is not a punishment.

PVP was always a side-game in Classic. It wasn’t even a concept at the start of Vanilla. You’re playing a mini-game and expecting to be on-par with everybody playing the actual game.

Why can’t I reach challenger in League of Legends by playing ARAM?

There was a new PVP set created in P3 whilst the level cap was 50. There’s been items added to the STV event that were BiS/pre-raid BiS for their respective phases, obtained only by ‘PVP’. You had the Ashenvale event (that everybody ignored in favour of boss rushing)

Everything PVP related that Blizzard have done, you idiots have cried about. Catering to you is a waste of time.

Min-maxing is a PVE concept anyway.

There’s no competitive environment like arenas, that’s true, but that’s not an excuse for having a broken class balance.

We all like to win, or at least have a fair fight, not a battle that we know from the beginning is impossible to win due to the enormous superiority of the class you are facing, that can make you lose BGs and it is not fun to lose because of a mismatch in the numbers, something that Blizzard could easily tweak by raising and lowering the figures taking as an axis the feedback of the community, But you know what? They don’t care at all, in fact the little balance that classes that it makes is always designed for PVE, despising again the PVP community, which is bigger than many of you think and is also the one that moves the most numbers on platform of stremaing, in addition to being a style of play that requires greater skill and improvisation capacity that there is not in PVP, so more respect to the community that has given the most legendary WOW videos.

And that’s wrong, it’s not fair that the best weapon in the game is obtained in PVE, because PVP should always have its twin variant.

P7 is Naxx with 0 PVP content, and P8 will be exactly the same, that’s something I’ve assumed seeing the lack of attention that the PVP community has.

I know there won’t be any changes because they haven’t even deigned to give us gear like rings, cape, trinket for ranks 12, 13 and 14, so I assume that 14 will be the last and they will dedicate 100% of the content to PVE as many of you wish, in fact I’m sure you’d applaud deleting PVP from the game.

Forcing me to play a style of play that I don’t like is a punishment, would you like to do PVP mandatorily to be able to perform in the PVE? And don’t name STV to me because nobody does STV today, that’s something that died in P3, you can go BiS perfectly without touching PVP in your life.

And that the minmax is something exclusive to the PVE is a fallacy that I am not even going to discuss, in fact limiting ourselves in P4 to R13 is already an error…if you want best weapons to play, again GO PVE!!

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It’s not broken, it’s a classic MMORPG with PvE focus.
Classic doesn’t have to meet any requirements like a competitve PvP game.

For that reason there has never been balance.

Why should it?

PVP is a mini-game.

You’re not forced to play the game at all. You’re welcome to play a different version of the game that caters to you PVP crybabies.

not this :poop: again.
So far it has been more of a main game than PvE, you raidlog for BWL and thats it.
PvE has been more of a mini-game than PvP sofar in P4 and P5.

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So… PVP updates where?

Classic didnt had, but SoD should have!!