https://ptr.wowhead.com/npc=148553/7th-legion-despoiler
https://ptr.wowhead.com/npc=148554/7th-legion-incinerator
https://ptr.wowhead.com/npc=148519/7th-legion-ascendant
https://ptr.wowhead.com/npc=148556/7th-legion-sandwalker
Same models, new names. On one hand, there is no entity in the Alliance called the ridiculously hammy name of 'Purge Squad.' On the other, the exterminators of Vulpera are confirmed to be 7th Legion.
Typical blizzard. Destroying all nuances after some alliance tears. Arctur is probably fapping right now.
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Dear god ... and how many Vulpera did they exterminate ?I mean they must have killed more than 50% of the vulpera population to be considered "exterminators" right right?
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28/10/2018 15:09Posted by ErevienTypical blizzard. Destroying all nuances after some alliance tears. Arctur is probably fapping right now.
People hate it because it is coming out of nowhere with no explanation to it. People doing idiotic stuff for the sake of it shouldn't be allowed.
Give me a good enough reason for why the Alliance would genocide some desert rats then perhaps I could accept it, otherwise it should be removed.
Edit : This is also assuming that it is the Alliance behind it.
28/10/2018 15:14Posted by Frozengrip28/10/2018 15:09Posted by ErevienTypical blizzard. Destroying all nuances after some alliance tears. Arctur is probably fapping right now.
People hate it because it is coming out of nowhere with no explanation to it. People doing idiotic stuff for the sake of it shouldn't be allowed.
Give me a good enough reason for why the Alliance would genocide some desert rats then perhaps I could accept it, otherwise it should be removed.
Edit : This is also assuming that it is the Alliance behind it.
There is no Grey when there is good reason behind it. At this point you can justify anything because of Teldrassil. Targeting bystanders is the only way for blizzard to get out of this writing.
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28/10/2018 15:15Posted by ErevienThere is no Grey when there is good reason behind it. At this point you can justify anything because of Teldrassil.
That is not true. You don't kill random sand goblins because of Teldrassil... if something happens, I want a good reason for it happening otherwise, just leave it out. If stuff doesn't make sense, it doesn't belong in the game.
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It has already been confirmed that the orders were explicitly to do property damage and morale destruction, with no intended fatalities.
So basically like Teldrassil kinda was supposed to be, but the Alliance are more competent \o/
So basically like Teldrassil kinda was supposed to be, but the Alliance are more competent \o/
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28/10/2018 15:15Posted by ErevienThere is no Grey when there is good reason behind it. At this point you can justify anything because of Teldrassil. Targeting bystanders is the only way for blizzard to get out of this writing.
That doesn't make it grey committing genocide for no reason whatsoever, that makes it black lol.
M O R A L L Y G R E Y is meant to be where there are both good and bad sides with no real way to go. The Purge of Stratholme is a good grey event for this exact reason. Arthas didn't purge it for the lolz.
The reason why Sylvanas and the Burning of Teldrassil doesn't fit into this is because it was just black, she burnt a tree full of innocents for no real reason other than she was pissed.
28/10/2018 15:07Posted by TaxaniaOn the other, the exterminators of Vulpera are confirmed to be 7th Legion.
The "exterminators" whose leader made it clear that they do not want to "purge" the Vulpera, but the key war supplies that they are sending to Dazar'alor.
Those are the orders, the men who will break them will be punished accordingly. Clearly the Alliance does not endorse ethnical purges. And you would do well to remember that Lord Admiral Jaina Proudmoore wanted to spare as many civilians as possible in the Battle of Dazar'alor, and High-King Anduin did not put an end to the war because he doesn't want to murder innocent people like the ugly Banshee Sylvanas who doesn't care about burning children alive.
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28/10/2018 15:24Posted by Arctur28/10/2018 15:07Posted by TaxaniaOn the other, the exterminators of Vulpera are confirmed to be 7th Legion.
The "exterminators" whose leader made it clear that they do not want to "purge" the Vulpera, but the key war supplies that they are sending to Dazar'alor.
Which is fair enough? I suppose? After all it’s war.
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28/10/2018 15:26Posted by Telriem<span class="truncated">...</span>
The "exterminators" whose leader made it clear that they do not want to "purge" the Vulpera, but the key war supplies that they are sending to Dazar'alor.
Which is fair enough? I suppose? After all it’s war.
A war that the Horde started, I might add, when they erased Darnassus from history, and committed genocide.
We all make our choices. The Vulpera chose to aid the Horde FULLY KNOWING THAT THE ALLIANCE WOULD NOT TOLERATE IT (It doesn't take a genius to figure that out). They brought that upon themselves. They should thank us that we're only after their war supplies.
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28/10/2018 15:19Posted by FrozengripThat doesn't make it grey committing genocide for no reason whatsoever, that makes it black lol.
M O R A L L Y G R E Y is meant to be where there are both good and bad sides with no real way to go. The Purge of Stratholme is a good grey event for this exact reason. Arthas didn't purge it for the lolz.
"Muh TELDRASSIL! They had it coming!" Makes everything white again.
28/10/2018 15:28Posted by ArcturA war that the Horde started, I might add, when they erased Darnassus from history, and committed genocide.
We all make our choices. The Vulpera chose to aid the Horde FULLY KNOWING THAT THE ALLIANCE WOULD NOT TOLERATE IT (It doesn't take a genius to figure that out). They brought that upon themselves. They should thank us that we're only after their war supplies.
See what I mean? @Frozengrip
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28/10/2018 15:17Posted by Theronarum28/10/2018 15:15Posted by ErevienThere is no Grey when there is good reason behind it. At this point you can justify anything because of Teldrassil.
That is not true. You don't kill random sand goblins because of Teldrassil... if something happens, I want a good reason for it happening otherwise, just leave it out. If stuff doesn't make sense, it doesn't belong in the game.
Just look at what Arctur just posted. Proving my point.
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Which is fair enough? I suppose? After all it’s war.
A war that the Horde started, I might add, when they erased Darnassus from history, and committed genocide.
We all make our choices. The Vulpera chose to aid the Horde FULLY KNOWING THAT THE ALLIANCE WOULD NOT TOLERATE IT (It doesn't take a genius to figure that out). They brought that upon themselves. They should thank us that we're only after their war supplies.
True, perhaps they were just after a bit of resources/money themself in return. Idk.
Erevien, I’m sure you’re a nice guy but a lot of the posts I see you write don’t even make sense to me :/
28/10/2018 15:34Posted by TelriemErevien, I’m sure you’re a nice guy but a lot of the posts I see you write don’t even make sense to me :/
"If we decide to genocoide [blank insert any race here] because they now start supplying the Horde and act friendly towards them, we have all the reasons and rights to do so because of Teldrassil!!!!"(See literally any Arctur argument)
If you want to actually add nuances into this, and get rid of brown nosing attitudes of "We are the best! Bow down peasants!" you have to make the rtarted lawful good guy do something ooc and plainly evil. Otherwise you will witness a repeat of the argument construct in my first sentence.
28/10/2018 15:39Posted by Erevien28/10/2018 15:34Posted by TelriemErevien, I’m sure you’re a nice guy but a lot of the posts I see you write don’t even make sense to me :/
"If we decide to genocoide [blank insert any race here] because they now start supplying the Horde and act friendly towards them, we have all the reasons and rights to do so because of Teldrassil!!!!"(See literally any Arctur argument)
If you want to actually add nuances into this, and get rid of brown nosing attitudes of "We are the best! Bow down peasants!" you have to make the rtarted lawful good guy do something ooc and plainly evil. Otherwise you will witness a repeat of the argument construct in my first sentence.
Vulpera wasn’t a genocide, they are literally just destroying goods with minimal causalties. When Sylvanas finds out that they failed she will probably blight them in anger for failing.
Alliance doing that isn’t because of teldrassil, it’s because it’ll advantage them in the war. Which is normal to do so :)
28/10/2018 15:39Posted by Erevien"If we decide to genocoide [blank insert any race here] because they now start supplying the Horde and act friendly towards them, we have all the reasons and rights to do so because of Teldrassil!!!!"(See literally any Arctur argument)
No, Arctur stated that (1) there is little indication that the Alliance would commit an ethnical purge and (2) since the Vulpera are aiding the Horde, they are a danger to the Alliance War Effort. The latter being a good reason to attack the Vulpera, just like it would have been a good idea to attack Brennadam if that posed a danger to the Horde War Effort (I condemn the gruesome way it was done in, though).
No one mentions the Burning of Teldrassil, because we all realise how it is irrelevant. Neither is everything justified in a war.
28/10/2018 15:39Posted by Erevien28/10/2018 15:34Posted by TelriemErevien, I’m sure you’re a nice guy but a lot of the posts I see you write don’t even make sense to me :/
"If we decide to genocoide [blank insert any race here] because they now start supplying the Horde and act friendly towards them, we have all the reasons and rights to do so because of Teldrassil!!!!"(See literally any Arctur argument)
If you want to actually add nuances into this, and get rid of brown nosing attitudes of "We are the best! Bow down peasants!" you have to make the rtarted lawful good guy do something ooc and plainly evil. Otherwise you will witness a repeat of the argument construct in my first sentence.
Destroying resources is considered genoside now?Or is this the usual Horde poster bs?
28/10/2018 15:47Posted by Shrad28/10/2018 15:39Posted by Erevien...
"If we decide to genocoide [blank insert any race here] because they now start supplying the Horde and act friendly towards them, we have all the reasons and rights to do so because of Teldrassil!!!!"(See literally any Arctur argument)
If you want to actually add nuances into this, and get rid of brown nosing attitudes of "We are the best! Bow down peasants!" you have to make the rtarted lawful good guy do something ooc and plainly evil. Otherwise you will witness a repeat of the argument construct in my first sentence.
Destroying resources is considered genoside now?Or is this the usual Horde poster bs?
Let’s not stigmatise all horde posters, but Erevien often doesn’t read full posts, barely skims them.