The reason Alliance lose 100% of all AV pugs is that they don't defend SH GY

[anon57183615]

Let me quote myself from the other topic:

@anon57183615

The fight starts right at SH GY at the beginning, because horde has a headstart and gets very close to SH GY the same time as alliance reaches it.
If teams are even, then of course eventually horde can be pushed back to a point when reinforcement are at even distances, however some alliance have to stay back at SH, because horde can go around Balinda and attack from the other side.
(Meanwhile horde can easily let IBGY completely abandoned since even if a rogue soft cap it, it doesn’t take any significant effort to take it back.)

The fight usually go back and forth between SH GY and mid field until:

• horde caps SH GY when the alliance team advances too far from SH GY and does not leave enough defenders behind
• or horde summons their boss
  Horde summon site is at the other side of the field so alliance should split into 3 groups to prevent the summon: 1 stay at guarding SH GY, 1 fight at mid field to push horde main attack back and 1 try to prevent the summon.
  On the other hand alliance summon can be easily interrupted because the summon site is in the way of the horde attack line.

Some advices capping SF GY, but first of all horde reaches that faster at the beginning and alliance need to split up until it is capped, because if horde caps SH GY while alliance waits for the SF GY timer, then everybody will res up behind the IW choke point and the game is over.

So in case of even teams there is simply no working counter strategy against the current horde meta because it is based on the map advantage and that cannot be changed.

What options does alliance really have to defend SH GY?

• Keep defending until horde boss is up without making any progress, because if horde attacks with all their 40 people then it obviously needs all 40 alliance players to defend it.
• Leave SH GY and try to get an another spawning point without ending up behind the SH choke point: SF GY or IB GY or FW. Since these graveyards has timers, all that horde has to do is soft capping SH GY and sending reinforcement against the alliance attack team until they are sent back to north one by one.

@Bodiesan-earthshaker

In my current AV, literally no one defended SH GY.

Since defending SH is just as pointless as trying anything else, there are games when people just try other tactics hoping that horde makes a mistake, because that’s the only chance to have a different outcome. It usually doesn’t work of course so does defending SH.

@Bodiesan-earthshaker

I am asking in chat why are we defending SP GY for 45min when no one defended SH GY at start. No answer.
I count 23 inactive Alliance. Horde still can’t get past SP choke.

Because after SH is lost, the game is over, so people either farm honor by killing horde at SP or just go inactive until the BG ends.
Yes SP is easy to defend because of the same reason why SH is so easy to lose: between SP and IWB choke point there is a long road that slows down reinforcement from both side.
This is called: unbalanced map.
However at the time when the fight reaches SP horde has already won.