The State of Horde RP

Outside of Vulpera (No issue with Vulpera, but it’s literally all who’s around outside the odd elf.), it’s dead outside of Guilds and what Guilds do remain seem to think we’re still in BFA, messing about in Arathi with the Alliance from what I’ve observed.

Is there any proactive way to improve Horde RP? Other than a bunch of Guilds circle jerking each other in situations that ignore established lore?

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Check out the Horde RP community and the weekly gatherings!

There are also events like the Kosh’harg and Nighthold day coming up next week which will be buzzing with Horde RP

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No offence, but I’ve seen the calibre of roleplay from some of your members, growth pots included. Doesn’t sound like something that would be for me.

What is it exactly you would want from the current Horde RP?

Anything that would make a modicum of sense?

Not pretending the Horde is still fighting the Alliance would be a big start?

This Kosh’arg is happening soon, there’s going to be a bunch of non-Orcs there and I mean, how does that make a remote bit of sense? At least I can sort of forgive that for it being a bit more conducive to roleplay.

Like I said in the other thread, maybe I’m just jaded. Maybe I’m turning into Walter Sobchak.

Partake in Horde RP even if you think the quality is not up to your standard. The more active Horde players there are, the more will join - and surely a bunch of the ones joining will be to your standard, eventually.

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Smaller skirimishes still being a thing has been written about plenty. The major war is over, but just like before, smaller incursions and fights can and still do happen.

The fourth war ending in a truce was also not exactly popular among everyone in both factions in-universe.

Festivals being attended by people who aren’t of that race is nothing new either, and a fairly common occurrence.

Beyond that, I’d agree with what Ruld said.

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I can still see skirmishes happening (keep in mind that RPers are but a fraction of the IC population, so they’re just skirmishes) as old hatreds don’t just cease to exist. Advocating for things to make “more sense” and wanting the Kosh’arg to be fully Orc only and fragment a smaller community even further would also not be productive. A bit of leeway should definitely be given there so people can RP with each other when events happen.

I also believe that even if the RP isn’t 100% your thing, choosing to avoid them will not get you anywhere as Ruld says. I RP in Stormwind and it’s not all my style either, but it gets me some RP and I may stumble upon a few hidden gems. :slight_smile:

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It’s not about standards, these people are not necessarily good/bad/mediocre.

It’s the narrative that’s being spun. It makes no sense.

Depends entirely on the context of the conversation. Individuals on either Horde or Alliance still being very hostile about the other faction despite a peace is completely valid. Alot of bad things happened, and some might not simply think its fine to accept a peace and move on.

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Small scale skirmishes, yes. Not multiple guilds pissing about in Arathi pretending they’re fighting a sizable amount of Dwarves. I saw another post saying Trolls were trying to kick colonizers out of the Hinterlands. Like, what?

I have done the Heritage Armor quest. There’s not even any AU Orcs there, nevermind other races. As stated though, I can be a bit lenient on that since it’s conducive to roleplay.

I mean, if your judgement of RP is already gated at ‘Growth pots = bad’ then, yeah, maybe it is a You problem?

Sure, you’re not wrong about the lesser focus on Hubs for Horde RP, as well as Guild-focus, but I’d argue that’s no worse than the ‘Yes you have a Hub, but it’s called Stormwind’ that Alliance have. Having been, and still being, on both sides of the road.

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So, it’s more, Not all Growth Pot users are bad, but a lot of bad roleplayers do use growth pots. And unfortunately, Iron Wolf are quite bad for it in that respect. But I do not begrudge them doing what they want or anything, just not for me, as I said.

The world is also stuck in the Cataclysm era. As long as the places have a Horde presence, it makes sense for their races to be there. And even if not… adventurers are a very common thing!

I wouldn’t go for the “a lot of bad roleplayers use growth pots” so quickly. Some of these people may be fairly new and are just trying out a concept they think is cool. We’ve all been there and refusing to acknowledge or RP with them is just… not great, you know?

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The Kosh’arg event is from Shadowlands, friend.

Doesn’t matter. Log in and change the narrative.

Not sure one person can do that. The balance of factions is too skewed in one way and the ones remaining one side are going to resist any change.

Okay, let’s see what difference zero people make, then. :no_mouth:

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Well, you’re intentionally loading your answer to put the onus on one person. I can stand around in Orgrimmar whilst no one is present.

I’m not saying I necessarily agree since I don’t know the full scale, but ultimately as long as they aren’t outright saying the whole faction supports them and its a grand war, I am not bothered.

It also depends on if its a guild-specific storyline or something they are advocating to be pushed on everyone as an official canon story.

This can be easily said because they wanted Orcs to be the highlight and focus. It doesn’t mean others are barred from observing or participating.

Growth pots is one of those things were sometimes it might cause an eyeroll from me(depending on the person) but its absolutely not something that will make me immediately write someone of as bad or ignore them over on its own.

It’s a tool that can be used for both good or bad.

You’d be surprised what one person can do tbh. I’ve seen things snowball into bigger activities or trends several time because of one person. People will latch on and join in if they like your idea.

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