I had hoped that the crest trading upward would make it easier to get wyrms, but in practice this doesn’t really work well…
You have to fill all your gearslots with max upgraded gear to unlock the next ‘tier’.
So to be able to trade drake crests up to wyrm crests, I need all my slots to have maxed out veteran gear. Doable, but it takes time because world content only gives out so many drake crests per week (not enough to hit the maximum you earn, by a big margin).
This is not an issue in itself, it will just take patience. But when I finally reach that point; I’m going to need 90 drake crests to trade up for 15 wyrms (which is the amount for a single upgrade for your gear). You just don’t earn enough drake crests per week to get more than 1 trade. So basically you’re looking at 1 wyrm per week, if even that.
That’s excruciatingly slow!
So doing LFR earns me 45 wyrm crests per week.
Guess what I’m doing? Yes… LFR AGAIN, like last season. I’m still having to do chores to get upgrades (yes like WQs for raiders, LFR is a chore for me as a world content player - it’s content that isn’t hard, but I ‘have’ to do it to get more powerful). Doing chores is what big 3 players complained about and Blizzard made it so you don’t have to do that anymore; so why are world content players not treated the same way?
In short: This upgrade system needs tuning.
Sure, next expansion things will hopefully be different with world content finally getting its rightful place as an endgame pillar with delves and its own vault track and whatnot.
But for now, this upgrade system is still very punishing for world content players who just want to do world content.
Honestly, I gave up at 450ilvl. I might upgrade them one more for the normal appearance once I’ve catalysed everything but… just no. Also, won’t we be getting different gear in season 4? Is there much point to bother going max when it is going to be replaced in a few weeks?
Upper tier crests are downgradable to lower tier with 1 to 1 rate.
When you on cap of upper tier crests, you automatically start getting lower tier crests for the same content
With that said, any reason of “farming” lower content for upgrades is elimited completely. You can continue push level of content you feel like.
Why exactly you need better gear for world content? It’s all one shot even with Explorer 8/8 gear. Something is chore only because it gives another additional source of character power, which is vital for “main” desirable content.
Delves will give heroic raid level gear, as they said in one interview. I hope they will change plans, or make this gear usable in Delves only. Otherwise we are getting into another chore, because I don’t believe Delves won’t be trivial faceroll content.
most easiest gearing since ever and ppl still crying
when you only do open world content, which is “watching netflix next to it to not get bored” easy, then you get the gear which you need the challenge and overcome the tasks
then maybe do normal raid or lower m plus? if this is a chore for you, then is gearing not your thing in wow
extra take you can craft up to 4 gearslots( at the moment ) to 463 without any crest and only with flightstones and mats
I am not doing twice due to no account-wide which it means alt is dead. Just do raid and some upgrades while you can. System is broken! I am so tired of bad design every season. Look at season 3 is so much much much worse than season 1 and 2. So what do you think about season 4?
If it was efficient to do world content for dungeon gear, it would feel mandatory. Players would grind a week of solo stuff they hate as the entry price for m+… Vs just starting as they can do now.
The crest system is just bad. We had 1 currency now we have 4. Yeah thanks, but no thanks. Valor was working fine. Flightstones would be fine for open world content gear upgrades and then I wouldn’t even mind that I have to spend 250 to create 1 Spark.
Because it’s fun to get upgrades and to get more powerful.
What a silly question.
No, no it’s not.
You’re giving this a very particular definition based on your own mindset.
That’s not how things work.
So wait…
I’m having to do chores, but you just shrug that off because you don’t feel it’s actually a chore?
But when you feel something IS a chore, suddenly that IS valid?
Wow…
Well… Not quite such a punishing pace.
That’s really not that much to expect.
Right… You’re one of those people.
We’re done talking.
Right… You’re one of those people.
We’re done talking.
Because it’s unbalanced.
If you got at most 15 crests to upgrade one piece of gear per week, you’d be upset too.
Don’t act as if this is a weird ask.
I don’t mind slow; getting everything up to the maximum of veteran gear already takes quite a bit of time and I’m fine with that. I’m not done with that for a while.
But I am earning some champion gear every now and then and yeah when I have that, I’d like to be able to upgrade it. That’s not weird. That’s not greedy. That’s not entitled. That’s completely normal.
No because I don’t consider world content chores; because it’s what I like.
Don’t approach my issues from your perspective; that doesn’t work.
I’m not asking to be done in a week. AT ALL.
I’m asking for a normal acceptable timespan.
Which is not 1 single upgrade level per week - after having already maxed all my veteran gear, because that is the requirement before I’d even start having the OPTION of getting 15 wyrm crests per week; something I’d still have to do quite a bit of content for since that requires earning 90 drake crests, which are semi rare in world content in the first place.
i mean if you refuse to play game then maybe unsubbing indeed is best option .
i myself took prolonged breaks this expansion because i find those dungeons pure garbage.
i have much more fun doing icc hc 4 nights a week - im already cutting down playtime in retail to 5x1 dungeon on 5 chars. cant wait for cata classic launch .
PvP players have it just as bad. If they don’t partake in PvE content they too only get one piece of gear a week. Worse they need to partake in PvE if they want to upgrade to champion level.
Still, I think the system is just fine the way it is. They could just increase the crests from 12 back to 15 that is all that is needed.
“I w at to whine on the forums theres not enough free gear fro, world content. I dont care if you think differently i only want positive reinforcement not an actual discussion”
By the time you benefit from upgrading one crest type to another, due to the amount of dungeon runs and times you do to gear up, you’ll be better geared than what the crests will benefit. So upgrading crests isn’t really a feasible gearing method, rather once on farm, spend your crests to save a few mythic runs that week to get your aspect crests, at least until cap is unlocked.
And if it’s meant for alts, it’s just massively disrespecting the player’s time for alts, so it’s not a good system either. But it’s not a main system that affects the gearing gameplay-loop, so it’s essentially a nothingburger. It doesn’t matter to gearing, and it doesn’t matter in general.
Gearing feels fine and good at times right now (though the randomizer seed for which tier token drops could be fixed in raids. Our guild seem to be stuck on a particular seed each reset so one week we get lots of weapons, other week lots of trinkets, every week is tier token for a particular type almost every single boss, so variation seems stuck in some under the hood randomizer seed that gets stuck or bugs out.)
Upgrading crests however is pointless and needs a rework if it wants to stop being a nothingburger.
