The weekly "Power in RP and how to get other people's consent for it thread"

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Legit. There’s a load of people here arguing on behalf of somebody who doesn’t even agree with their view. This has absolutely nothing to do with any of you and the actual IC situation has long since been quite amicably resolved - it’s quite literally jumping on the anti-Rotgarde bandwagon, and it’s embarrassing.

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Your argument is sadly just rotten @ the core because you understand the AD role play as multiple, isolated instances taking place unrelatedly at the same time that need mediation whenever they could come close to each other

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Perhaps people that weren’t involved in the whole ordeal at all should simply stop feeling the need to complain for the side they see “wronged” here when they themselves (in this case Rogmasha) doesn’t see an issue with it.

As someone from the outside of this whole thing, I’ve seen the rebel RPers and Stygian Legion interact each other over several month, undoubtedly creating loads of RP for each other. Instead of using this as some kind of ammo (its not like they imprisoned the whole movement), only the leader that was wanted for the killing of a grunt was taken prisoner. They now have the amazing opportunities to escalate their Rebel RP from here or go any other direction. Their RP wasn’t killed at all.
I’m sure if either side didn’t want anything like this to happen (which was really inevitable), they would have cut contact a long time ago.

OOC vendettas at work here once again. At least it looks that way.

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Sometimes I wonder what the state of role-play would be like if we all just disbanded every guild and played together as individuals.

Or I dunno, people could just stop guild shaming?

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People have been ‘ffs rotters’-ing for nearly 10 years now. We’re used to it.

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Rogmasha isn’t a thief, she’s the leader of a clan. Weird analogy.

Well, the reason the grunts are after Rogmasha is because she was in command of a group that killed a grunt / hosted meetings that had anti-Sylvanas plotting (as per the war crimes book the leaders of groups are liable for their underlings on Azeroth? Gonna need a powerful loremaster like Telaryn to confirm, I haven’t read that book…)

You tend to be quite invested in roleplay / take it a bit personally and don’t really like setbacks so much - or that’s what I take from your forum posts / that Ashiraya vs Uruk argument a while back

It’s true that you didn’t react badly at the time in-game but I think you had a pretty quick OOC response in various chats that wasn’t mega pleasant

Sure it is - it is doing something IC with an OOC intention to fail / tip someone off both IC/OOC that there may be some kind of conflict coming

I wasn’t attending any event and Rogmasha was (I hope) aware that they were wanted & being actively hunted given the public wanted poster thread, previous conflicts, the OOC knowledge that some Rotgarde-affiliated guys had been snooping around

Yet I have seen you get into plenty of conflict RP and have never seen you send any OOC pms to confirm that what you’re doing is OK

I’m not suggesting that I believe that that’s what you should be doing, but you should probably hold yourself to your own standards

Not at all

I care what the person I am interacting with thinks instead of a paladin on the forums. Ultimately if I was PM’d by the target (if that’s the word for it) of that interaction asking us to back off, we would have done just that

It’s a little bit of a “I consent / I consent / I don’t!” meme situation

They can be a bit of a school prefect on discord but they’re a fantastic roleplayer for sure

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Uh… dunno where you got that from, but ok? ‘Weird flex’ I guess?

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:thinking:

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If there wasn’t enough communication then that is regrettable, no one wants to ruin anyone else’s RP.

However all this acting like this is one sided RP is frankly ridiculous, this whole rebellion plot has been a cooperation between us Stygians and the lovely Rogmasha and their Whiteclaws, I’ve enjoyed it immensely and I hope the other side has too.

This was all done for the sake of RP, not to best anyone, or to act all powerful. At the end of the day we are here just to have fun as a community, like everyone else.

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Exactly. The whole point of this situation was to create RP. The dick swinging that’s going on is just comical tbh.

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You took it wrong then. I’m fine with setbacks. And my investment in RP is about having fun with others, not taking it super seriously to be honest, but I understand why it comes off like that.

As for my OOC responses, am I not entitled to my opinion about the situation? IC is IC, yes, but does that mean I shouldn’t express my opinion on it OOC as well?

I apologize if I sounded unpleasant and I assure you that I wish for no bad feelings between us. But what happened happened and I expressed my opinion on it like you did and I suggest that we leave it at that.

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Ooooph.

One nil.

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It’s still the word of grunts vs that of a clan leader. The Horde would most certainly not throw the axe at the latter.

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If people don’t stop hating on Perroy, they’re going to upset Puddles.

You should -never- upset Puddles.

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While I do think when there’s so many people involved in this RP that there ought to be more preparation/planning, there has been a huge deal of build up to these events and if the ‘victims’ of this aren’t causing a fuss and are content with how things are, then I don’t think there’s really a problem.

To expand on my first point, mostly in the interest of discussion since I don’t have any personal investment here, communication is very important when there’s entire collections of guilds involved.

Taking the extra step to make preparations OOC - while killing some of the natural flow of RP - ensures that there isn’t any bad feeling between players, and that everyone can try to be online and get involved. I imagine logging on after an early night to find that your leader has been arrested and taken away, while you didn’t have the opportunity to be involved in the action, can be jarring.

Neither option is perfect, but I’m more inclined to make sure there’s definite consent and cooperation going on. But again, if Rogmasha is fine with this, and presumably consented some time ago to an organic approach to this RP, then forum gremlins don’t really have a leg to stand on.

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rog’s arrest was incredibly based and redpilled t. igronak

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Fair enough, I can’t claim I know you beyond surface-level forum posts so maybe you’re the coolest cat in town and I’m 100% wrong

You can for sure but I think they were pretty antagonistic in general. You could have just sent me a PM if you had some concerns :pensive:

It’s OK, I don’t really have hard feelings towards you - I just don’t think that an instant OOC battle is really the best first response but also I’ve been guilty of that in the past too so who knows

Yet that isn’t true at all - the Horde arrests the High Chieftain of the Tauren for very similar crimes in about two weeks

Are you suggesting that an orc chieftain of a guild-size clan has diplomatic immunity in a way that the objective leader of the Tauren race does not? :confused:

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How can you be so sure of that?
One is a official unit within the Military, part of a Legion led by a High Executor. A rank which I’d claim has a lot of weight to swing around. A rather important rank for the forsaken as well, who’s leader is the current warchief.

The other is a clan, in a Horde that doesn’t really have that much focus on clans anymore. And is known for their neutral approach when it comes to Alliance.

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-Sylvanas- arrests Baine.

Not a grunt unit.

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Ummmm, respected clan leader or not, I’m pretty sure a crime is still a crime.

You’re telling me the Horde as a state, would not side with its own grunts?

Damn all the clan RPers should go commit murder right NOW, they have an easy get out of jail card.