if you think the important stuff that developer time spent should be on Toys and dressing up your pets in tmogs
dont go complaining when there is nothing to do content wise
the gameplay comes first, and its lack of content is the issue with DF
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No elf is good - they’re all terrible.
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Did you speedrun ksm and aotc already? What kind of content you need? Artifact power, expeditions and torghast? The only good thing I can remember is brawlers guild and mage tower, but I think they are on their way already
A lot of people would disagree with this tho.
Some people get quite annoyed when i explain the Token → Booster → gear method.
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that is not a 200 iq catch, we also know about it. Do you know what p2w means? Diablo Immortal for example, you can invest money and kill everything much more easily whether it is PvE or PvP. Is it the case for WoW? Yea you can buy mounts in exchange of gold or items but that doesn’t mean you’ll win.
You won’t get accepted to mythic raids if you buy full mythic gear set or you won’t get accepted by a serious 3v3 arena team no matter how much you pay for your gear.
Even if you spend 1000€ per month on this game that won’t make you the best / strongest player in your server. Do you understand now? Gear doesn’t mean to win, your raids logs are out there, your rio scores, arena winrate and arena past, everything is out there.
If someone with 6x challenger exp and 1 Gladiator achievement in arena applies to our groups we click on the X and reject them from joining, this rule applies to raids as well, acquiring gear doesn’t mean to win.
Imagine being an overwatch player and reading this post xdd
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Everyone have their own definition of P2W.
Lots of people think the token is P2W as all hell.
Lots of people even think just the mounts in store is P2W due to the collection achivement
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That just pay to shine! You literally get no advantage with mount skins 
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Lots of people thinking something doesn’t make it right or valid. Lots of people also told us we will all die if we don’t get the gene editing covid vaccine. As you can clearly see I’m here posting on wow forums.
Having unique mounts as microtransactions devalued mounts and it can be argued that it did damage value of ingame achievements but it has nothing to do with the game being p2w.
I don’t recommend using that to support your arguments. This just tells me that you have no opinion of yourself, you are just here to parrot what lots of people say. “Oh 100 people say this, 10 people say that, 100 is bigger than 10, then 100 people is definitely right” is this how you operate.
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I think this is all just narrative.
When i play the actual game it is actually grindier and less rewarding than it’s ever been. Also, more toxic and elitist than it’s ever been. Designed to challenge pro gamers with little thought about the average gamer. Also, very alt unfriendly if you actually aim to gear up your characters to a near max level, despite claims to the contrary. This expansion is extremely alt unfriendly due to how they designed the systems. It’s just such a huge grind.
The game is simply less fun than ever, despite the narratives being drawn up that everything is awesome, it’s actually not and we all really know it because of how the expansion didn’t sell as well as predecessors. Likely will be my last expansion. I am just tired of the ever increasing grind. There is less fun than ever in this game.
I actually had hope after Shadowlands season 4, but that is not the direction they went in. That season was the best this game has been in years and they just tossed it out of the window and gave us more grind and higher difficulty. I can handle it, but my team mates can’t. It becomes a tough social situation where i have to choose between playing the game with my friends or playing it for the game in this elitist tirade. It’s just not what i want to do. It’s not an enjoyable experience.
Never said it did, I am just saying that, your way is not the only way.
I agree fully, Hopefully you do not think i am arguing or disagreeing.
Just explaining that, different people have different opinions of what P2W is, Some have very silly opinions, Others more reasonable.
I am just explaining to you, Since you don’t seem very knowledgeable about the subject, that there’s tons of people having different opinions and values towards what P2W is.
Spend some time reading https://www.reddit.com/r/MMORPG/ and you’ll see them.
I am in full support of most P2W things personally, Except for maybe Diablo immortal or well, most Mobile games.
But i am fine with a lot of things, Because i am part of the crowed that likes to P2Progress… because i don’t really keep up with the uber elite players and want ways to keep up without spending the time.
WoW makes Blizzard money, companies don’t abandon money makers.
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Disney threw away The marvel heroes Game in 2017, they would’ve made A LOT of money if that game was around during the Infinite wars / end game Movies.
Yeah, now you get it for free afaik. No more questing to 50 on a new toon to get the armor lke i did.
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This a really bad post.
Someone said something before sometime and then it didn’t happend? HOW DARE HE?
Come on get real, everything changes Blizz try to make the best of it.
If you hang in by something someone said when the situation was different you going to have a lot of problems especially in your real life.
big whoop wanna fite 'bout it?
I’m not fighting about who is good or bad with a class that claims to “have seen the light” yet created such illuminated characters as Arthas Menethil and the Scarlet Crusade…
I havent - I yoinked it and do whatever I want.
Remember when in BFA and Shadowlands they said they couldn’t change the armor or how the factions worked, and then it turned out they could? Or them saying that the armor wasn’t meant to be significant, even though before the expansion came out they claimed that it was game-changing?
Also, nice reading only the title and then seeing the two videos and going, “Bad post because bad post, tough grass loser.”
If I have to do a historical lesson every time, this post will be a novel.
Be honest; you’re not here because you disagree with me or agree with me, but because of the two videos.
What you didn’t read is that Blizzard said something that is easy to remember and did it, and they are going the correct way.
These are sentences that aren’t hidden in the most hidden vault hidden behind an impenetrable wall but are public information.
But to you, celebrating a good thing is next to holding a grudge because one or both videos are affecting you. Somehow, being happy that people are holding to their publicly known promises and doing the right thing is a loser thing, but a passive aggressive tone because you can’t admit your bad choices is super chad.
Or maybe you are one of those people who is willing to accept any sludge and don’t care about how you spend your money, but I doubt that.