More like. “Hey, feel free to not answer, but were you using OBR this run, just curious” or something along those lines. But hey asking a simple question is harasment.
That didnt answer my question though?
Asking some questions is indeed harassment. It can be a simple rude question.
I mean, you are not that good to push the title. But you are okay with looking down and judging the people who are not that good either. There is no much difference between 10 and 14. You have to be really opinionated to think it’s normal to ask those questions in the end of a run.
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Why are you like this? Why do you always assume the worst in people here? This is what the 5th time at least you have taken something I have said and pushed it into a ridiculously malicious extreme. No Lina I did not imply in anyway that I though said players did anything wrong in the run, for the most part I stay sillent during dungeon run unless there is something important that needs to be said/typed, and usually when you do add the “feel free to not answer +/- if not confortable” to said question it generally means that its a very casual question. And no I did not flame nor intend to flame these players.
You say “anonymous” like it’s a shameful act. I don’t think it’s critical information you need to know upfront anyway.
I mean, sure — you have the right to build your team on whatever criteria (even completely trumped-up ones) you want… but it comes across as pompous and exclusionary for the sake of being exclusionary, rather than based on any reliable predictor of skill.
Oh no — what are you going to do about clickers? There’s no reliable way to detect if someone in your group is clicking their abilities. Does that bother you? Back in BFA, a lot of my guildmates were surprised to learn I was mostly a clicker, with only interrupts and “panic” survival abilities keybound. Yet I was tanking and clearing Heroic Eternal Palace… and no one even noticed.
My point is: so long as the task at hand gets done, what else matters? Why be so concerned about someone else’s methods? If you win, you win — who cares how it was achieved?
Let’s be real: OBR is really only going to affect normal or standard-level content. I don’t think you need to lose sleep over it being used in +20 keys or other high-end play — and chances are, if you do come across someone in high-end content consistently using it, that person may have a disability or a genuine need for OBR — yet your automatic assumption is that they must be lazy and/bad player… I think that says more about you.
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Because it’s pretty simple. That’s not normal question to ask people. Questions like this make m+ community toxic.
You liked the run? Say gg and go next.
You didn’t like the run? Say gg and go next
Maybe ask yourself why you are like this?
Why do you have the need to bother people if they used OBR?
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How so? Its a simple question about a new feature about the game. Is asking “did you like the new dungeon”, not a normal question to ask? Is that harrasment aswell?
Sorry about all the questions Lina, I am clearly harassing you.
Asking people if they use OBR after run is the same as asking if they liked new dungeon. Yep. Same questions 
any simple question is fine. Any!
Because each time this comes up as a solution, the OBR players start scteaming that they dont want to be singled out for using it. Ok sure I could not give a single… If you use it or not, but I dont want you in my group though.
And when the task at hand does not get achieved? Or when the task at hand gets achieved but for some reason its 5 times harder?
Is using OBR a bad thing in you mind?
I think it’s better if it’s shown in the combat log. That’s all that a guild or a premade needs to see, if someone is slacking or trolling the group. But in pugs I think we shouldn’t see that information in real time to prevent bullying. That’s the common sense compromise I think. Coordinated groups definitely need to see that information, but randoms don’t really.
Sure. However I think we should have the control for excluding people when we create our groups with randoms. So thats my proposition, I do not need to know who is using OBR but I should have the ability to not let them sign uo to my groups. I dont need to know Billy exists, but I should also not be pit into abpossition to interaxt with Billy.
Also, it’s a video game. No one should be “harassed” for simply trying to play and enjoy themselves.
Anyone who advocates harassing others — especially over something as trivial as using an in-game feature like OBR — is being a complete and utter douchebag, plain and simple.
Why act like a self-appointed hall monitor in a game that doesn’t need one?!
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I agree. And unless you agree with the whole “asking if someone uses OBR is harrasment” thing, I never did advocate nor did any harrassing. I just want to have control over my groups and prevent the use of OBR in them.
And nothing else concerns you?
What about dbm/bigwigs that literally tells you when the damage is coming, how to do boss mechanics, when to use defensives, when is tank buster, interrupt and so on? Is having these addons is not similar to OBR? People really pretend as they don’t use the helpers that literally play the game for them LIVE.
You were fine playing this game with all this addons.
So why only OBR bothers you so much?
I think if you wanna have agency over your team mates, you should be looking towards premade groups and guilds imo. Not that it’s wrong to play with randoms, but random groups are outcome oriented. This means if one can’t tell, whether someone uses obr and plays normally, that’s just what one should get. However, with coordinated, premade groups the “how” is also important, and there people need to have that information. That’s why the most elegant solution is making it visible in combat logs, but not visible as real time information.
Nope. Those addons compact the information already present on you screen into some thing more presentable. OBR actively makes decisions for you. When you hear DBM tell you " deffensive" you have to make the decision to A use it now or B save it for later. When OBR starts doing whatever its doing its not even showing you the correct skills its using half the time.
I didn’t say you did — I said anyone who does. I’m calling out the behaviour, not an individual.
Frankly, I don’t think people need to know — or are entitled to know — whether someone is using OBR before agreeing to group with them. It’s a privacy matter.
In the real world, employers aren’t entitled to know if an applicant has a disability, what religion they follow, or their sexual orientation. They can ask, but applicants aren’t required to answer — many choose “prefer not to say” precisely to avoid being treated unfairly.
The same principle applies here: it’s nobody else’s business. And let’s be honest — the only reason someone would go out of their way to use a WeakAura to detect OBR is because they’re looking for an excuse to single people out and treat them unfairly.
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Yeah they are. Where I work you get in trouble if you are not sober while at work and they find out.
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Don’t want … WHAT? 
Shouldn’t this be like something natural that we’re not harassing other people no matter what? 
So nice that you’re giving an “Option” - either don’t play OBR (or confess to it) or prepare being harassed? 
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