There is no Horde bias

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Damn right you have.

But you have no right to dictate what the terms of the product should be.

You’re crying for equality between factions in terms of story and worldbuilding.

But that’s not something you were ever promised, and it’s not something you can demand.

And as far as I’m concerned, it’s not something you (or anyone else) should have a say on.

Creative development should always reside 100% with Blizzard.

You can criticize what Blizzard do when it comes to creative development, but you can’t tell them what to do. That’s a no no.

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Stand down Erevien… You are no match to such power <.<

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I will never surrender.

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Don’t try it… :melting_face:

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I don’t want to be an underdog. Nobody roots for the underdog. Everyone roots for the grand hero that saves the day from evil.

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Every American in the whole God damn world roots for the underdog. That’s their entire cultural foundation. And sorry to break it to you, but you ain’t playing a Chinese game.

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Exactly this.

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there is. . . .

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Another one? Erevien take a break from the forums and the internet. How many treads you started in the last week?

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It seems not enough to make Blizzard see reason.

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You need to stop really it is unhealthy. plus it could lead to more bans.

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I got sick and tired every week watching the forum with multiple topics focused on the same things , repeating the same things over and over for the past 10 years…

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:joy:

You just made a whole post ignoring whole Horde lore from the past 4 expansions again.
WoD was half draenei and half Iron Horde. I reported this tread, and won’t react anymore cause you do not debate, you just want to ventilate your opinion every day.

I stopped reacting in the previous one, cause of mentioning of your health, the one being unreasonable is you. Take a break from the forums and the internet. Think about yourself.

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but he is right though, according to wowAnalytics about 65% of players worldwide are Horde. Why should we let this slip? Garrosh would be proud of Erevien, and so am I.

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The Horde never gets any lore when it isn’t the faction war. All the grand hero scenes are reserved for alliance leaders.

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There is no need to start multiple treads every week with ignoring whole lore stories, and then to not even debate but just making unhinged statements to ventilate his fanatical view which seems to also be affecting his own health.

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my health is doing fine. My fun with the story is not. Key difference here.

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If your Megalomaniac Bloodthirsty Warmongering leader hadn’t burned down the Night Elf city, they wouldn’t need a new home.

The Horde can get a nice new shiny home when the Alliance destroy Orgrimmar or one of your main cities.

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I can assure you nobody would cry if Orgrimmar burns down. It is literally just a dirthole.

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I am going to lecture you a little bit here, because I don’t think you appreciate the story for what it fundamentally was written to be.

Like I said, The Horde are the underdogs in the story. Metzen, who wrote the story, basically inserted himself into the personification of the underdog in Warcraft – Thrall. The slave that broke free and saved the repressed Orcs from the internment camps and sailed east to the forgotten lands of Kalimdor and fought for and founded the lands of The Horde.
I mean, Thrall may as well be called George Washington. And Kalimdor is America. The geography and layout and everything, it’s all there! The Tauren are the native Americans!

The story of The Horde breaking free from the demon influence and settling in the harsh lands of Durotar and forming a union with the Tauren and the Trolls is very much a story inspired by the American war of independence. It’s almost the only story Metzen knows how to tell, because he kind of told it in StarCraft as well where he also inserted himself into the underdog character of Jim Raynor who’s up against The Terran Confederacy who’s logo even looks like the American Confederate flag.

Point being that the story theme of The Horde is that of the underdog reflecting American history. It’s a story of struggle, fighting for one’s independence and values and right to be.
It’s an American story. It’s why so many players find the Horde appealing, because it’s story themes taken from their own cultural history.

The Alliance on the other hand, are King Arthur and his Knights of the Round Table.
The appeal of The Alliance is the same as the story of King Arthur, the knights and castles and the nobility and righteousness and the quest for good, and the virtue of justice in the face of unspeakable evil.
That’s Arthas and Uther and Lothar and Turalyon and Anduin and everyone else in The Alliance. They’re all shaped around the mould of King Arthur and Lancelot and Tristan and…Uther. They’re variations of him and his knights that Metzen have written his own spins on.
Obviously the draw here is the struggle to hold onto your virtues when faced with hardship. Arthas falls, Anduin struggles, and Lothar dies heroically. It’s different knights’ tales.

To ask for Blizzard to put The Horde and The Alliance into a blender and make a smoothie out of them and treat them exactly the same, and everyone one side gets something the other side should get something similar, is to not appreciate the story for how it was fundamentally written.

I think there’s a lot of criticism for how Blizzard have evolved the factions over the years in World of Warcraft, but I think you’re doing the Warcraft story a disservice by not appreciating it for what it is. The Alliance often gets the grand hero scenes, because their story is the knight’s tale. The Horde often gets the story of sacrifice and struggle, because their story is the American story.

USA! USA! USA!

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