I don’t know about that… associating an entire religion with the magic that’s been seen as evil for most of the setting’s lifetime sounds incredibly islamophobic to me.
Show me the blatant islamophobia. If you cry its the Church of the light. Well thats an easy win in a debate. The Church of the light if close to Christian (which its not) religion would be a blasphemy as there is not recognised Christian doctrine. Also spell casting would be considered witch craft. The use of cathedral and church is western is just the same as the Night Elf uses of Temple.
Adding islam to the game would more or less lead to WoW and the company that created that game committing blasphemy. Some Iman would declare a fawa because it offends the Islamic religion. This is because there is no tolerance for the use of Islamic Religion unless its 100% to the Quran.
Thus creating the Islamic religion ingame presents challenges. One its outside of the story telling so far and two; it wont be acceptable in some form other than that stated as acceptable by god.
Imagine if a prophet was shown as an image ingame, there would be death threats and calls to kill Blizzard employees. If something was found to be an offense to the religion. Say the prophet was a murderous warlord, then its a blasphemy. They will 100% find one or make it look like one exists. Then fatwa’s and death threats will follow. Most likely just having some form of islam in the game would just be a blasphemy. People would lose their minds over it.
Hell the best past time is playing the victim. Why not be the victim if the Islam ingame is some Kaafer nonsense thats negating the truth of God. The game would then be leading people to blasphemy against god.
Note in WoW current state, has the theme of polytheist or pagan religions. It would be unacceptable to play such a game morally. A believer of the Islamic faith would avoid such themes. Would avoid such games. So should a Christain.
Note: A Kaafer is someone who rejects God in an Islamic context.
To create a game that shows an Islam type faith but does not show the truth of god in an Islamic context. This would be unacceptable, to all Muslims everywhere. An offense against god.
Every company avoids real world religions and wishes to offend no one.
WoW is just fantasy. Its not real world.
4 Likes
if it doesnt fit and you just randomly place mosques everywhere then yes, it would irritate me.
listen, this is kind of your problem with this. i dont think anyone here is seriously opposed to mosques themselves although they might carry negative connotations from the real world, its just you didnt sell the idea well at all whatsoever.
im not Brigante, im sure he could pitch a lovely and interesting idea/story but instead of “mosque plz” you should have said you would like an expansion where x happens and it involves blood elves or whatever, some of them are cut off and build a new city and it looks like xyz [insert your muslim inspired architetcure here]. (im horrible with stories). just anything like that.
people would be much more on your side, at least i would. if you want something, you need to sell the idea to get support.
give me an idea or story where i can say man thats cool i need this.
1 Like
Well I mean, unless you really think that I’m completely stupid and I’m asking for random mosques to appear in the middle of Nagrand and Vash’jir with no context, then surely you understand that I DO want a logical explanation and setting for it to be there.
Most likely, a southern continent, probably at the west of Pandaria, that could be somewhat connected to Uldum and where it would make sense to have such architectures and outfits.
I don’t want to throw it all at random just so it’s there, I want it to be implemented in a way that makes sense within the established lore, just like the Mogu and the Titans, the Manthid & the Old gods.
then give people this logical explanation. 
get creative, sell the idea. thats all im going to say to this.
you are /10
I gave some examples already throughout the thread, including in the very post you’ve just replied to at this very moment.
no, what i meant was an original idea, not examples.
Yep ,Dalaran is pretty much north African and middle eastern looking .Even towers looking like minaret’s
Magical city of Dalaran ,hmm where word magic comes from hmm … oh right Persia !
1 Like
all your examples were shot down by many different people because they were bad and made no sense
So if I get this right you want a mosque in Uldum were they practice void magic ?
Could be possible after nzoth little visit their or at least his minions that would explain it a little bit 
But it would still need lots more then that cause still what purpose would it serve other then being there no one would go their even if blizzard would make it.
100% based.
Yea well, it would have (at best) been “inspired” by how mosques look anyways, it’s all fiction after all.
No, Dalaran doesn’t suit the Middle Eastern theme, that was not the point. He was so utterly focused on the looks of mosques, I just wonder if he knows what they look like.
But it is utterly clear that he just wants an entire religion added and not just the looks of a mosque.
As a french living in Norway and about the architecture of SW cathedral. To sum it up: It’s gothic style that came from the kingdom of France and made only by the Normands at first. They were the inhabitants of a settlement of Vikings (pagans who later converted themselves to Christianity). If you’ve seen the serie Vikings you have Rollo there. He was the leader. He is not a fictional character.
So you see, this building architecture has non christian roots. Problem solved 
peace
Ps: on a side note i do not think Blizzard has an agenda against Islam faith or as a whole the arabic culture. I lived in Irak as a young kid and i think Caldeum (from Diablo) is probably the nicest city ever made by Blizz. Both in the lore and in game. It is heavily arabic inspired. I would love if they explored that side in WoW as well.
Do you know…neither of us could remember the terms, that -would- actually have been a sensible reference to use regarding them!
Still the same, the RAF, Navy and Royal Marines don’t have extra amounts of Zealous priests. I was more saying that the Army have -more- of them (whcih they do) and even then, they were very rare, which they are. They’re not dragging a bunch of Clerics with them wherever they go , chill.
The Armed Forces have those too, just the general ‘go to’ is the Chaplain/Padre, if soldiers are having a crisis of a nature where Religion is a key part of their problem, like that pesky “Thou Shalt not Kill” bit. The Psychologists are very much part of the Secular Medical staff. Whose job is apparently absolutely horrible, the things they hear but are bound by oath to not speak of in a professional capacity.
That is -precisely- where he got the name. In one game I took out four of her key pieces with that one Bishop so she named him the Baby Eating Bishop of Bath and Wells 
Blackadder II really was superb. I wish I had LARP kit like his in that…well, not the tights maybe…
Or the Ruff…
Because if you read what I said, Catholic=/=Christianity as a whole.
Which it really quite famously does not. it is a sect of Christianity. Christian themes are not the same as Catholic themes, because there are not universal themes held true throughout all branches of Christianity, was kind of my point. Obviously Catholics are Christians, but so are Protestants, Eastern orthodox, Baptists, Methodists, Mormons and all sorts, none of which have the same themes is what I meant, apologies if I was not as clear as I should have been in that statement.
To be fair, I could save myself the plane ticket and just go to my local town if i wanted to see a Mosque 
1 Like
From what I heard, a clay house is sufficient prayer environment in the islamic tradition. But dalaran still feels very middle eastern. I mean come on. We could practically ride a carpet mount in those days, haha.
1 Like
Just roll an enhancement shaman and kneel before Throne of The Four Winds.
1 Like
from the games point of view nothing, from some muslim extrimist everything as it hust gives them more fuel to kill for
and the reason for their death is also irellewant as they are dead see we can both play that game, so it does not matter if the person killing them was a christian, muslim, alien or what not they are dead so it matters not for them.
so get the hell down your high horse and face reality instead of trying to play smart with fansy wording of empty air.
nope not really
so the western nations muslim or other belif soldiers are allowed to kill muslims as they are not christians? that is where your logic falls short, any western nation is not all one religion and dont go to war against one religion they go to war against groups that they cant agree with and only as a last resort(unless you look at USA but they do a lot of bad stuff for strange reasons none knows but im guessing it is to promot their interest in the area here and now(they lack the forsight and experiance that cames with being a old nation))
but what about the soldiers beliving in hundiuse or norse mytholigy(i know some danish soldiers belive in norse mytholigy) as far as i know none of those religions heck not many religions other then the abrahamic religions go mono deity. so are all the people not beliving in a abrahamic religion not bound by the same rulings?
really cant see how stupied you make yourself sound and how off topic it is?
so are a lot of cartoons of jesus or other gods, there is a reason it is call satire and that is what the cartoons are, the only group really saying anything or comming with death treath because of satire drawings are the muslims, and that is the problem.
it is the same as all it takes is one person saying that they find it disrespectful and blizzard are going to get death treaths or might even get employs killed because of it.
the problem is the people going that far, not all muslims are like that but the problem is that some are, so unless those muslims can be railed in people should not touch that religion because of the danger ralated to it.
you fail to understand the danger with doing that, not because any western do not want it, simply some stupied muslim might just kill someone because of it.
the cartoons are a very good example of this.
so when the muslims and here i mean every single dam one of them even the extrimist(and it is the extrimist that are killing because of it(at least i hope so else we are having major problems)), then we can talk about adding anything inspired by islamic buildings and cloth, before that dont even think about touching that.
dont know, but anything that relates to islam or draws inspiriation from it have a very high chance of getting very bad backlash with possible death treaths or worse, so again into people like that learn to tolerate stuff about their religion then we might talk
problem is asian cultures dont really care about that stuff, some muslims do care about stuff like that, unless you get those muslims under control so they dont use violence or death treats or worse, there is no room for talking about it, after they are under control so none are in danger the sure we can talk.
true but take it in the relation it is talked about where it is about depicting god or jesus getting people killed but true the protostants and chatolics have a very tense relationship in ireland
Lordaeron City was like a big Mosque.
1 Like
If everybody were to do that then we would give into fear to be honest. And thats not the society we are or want to be…we should all be able to make a cartoon we should all be able to add some stuff into a game wether thats norse mythology, egyptian mythology or mosque like in this thread.
What bothers me the most is that I get the feeling the op just wants his religion to be more represented into the game. and add some random mosque into uldum or wereever without any sort of thought what purpose it would serve other then visuals and represantation.