We love a premade PvP, and we love challenges.
Wut?
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Venruki is talking about this in one of his videos. Not gonna link it. Itâs about time this get fixed.
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reddit post about ti was already deleted for breaking tos
always fun how forum mods and redditors clean the board with âbreak tosâ to save cheaters who destroy the game for hundreds of thousands of people while doing illegal sheet x)
this is why i just cannot stand whiteknights defending these things on forums, or mods trying to keep us in line, when the line has been literally deleted.
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Thanks for taking a stand.
Side note:
Please be familiar what you comment on. Its clear that you didnt read even the initial post. Venrukiâs video is mentioned already in the initial post. We however discuss Premades as a whole, and this is the second thing i get the memo you didnt bother reading, Sir. We as a community have a problem with premades as a whole, with or without addons. Addons being removed solves very little for us.
[quote=âChochoo-argent-dawn, post:258, topic:554335, full:trueâ]
if blizz would mix factions and realm pools all together into one, just like how it works for blitz and solo shuffle it would go a long way to fix some of the issues.[/quote]
This would fix:
- Epic BG Queue Syncing
- Random BG Queue Syncing
- Smaller Battlegroups not filling 15 man BGs (Italian, French and German rarely have enough people)
- Lastly, queue times would drastically!! improve
Instead, we got automated merc mode for RP reasons.
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Iâm trying to do random bg because I havenât played for a month and I wanted to experiment with other specs, talents and equipe. Also because the queues for blitz are endless and when you try to enter there is always someone who declines and it goes on for hours. In the last 3 days I find practically 8/10 premades almost always made up of players with Cyrillic names. All dressed, all in voice, target caller.
For me, something like this is honestly ridiculous and I donât understand the fun of doing it like this, but given that the game is objectively dying in the PvP field, they should try to do something to avoid this ridiculousness. I would like to point out that this is something they also do in epic bg
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i believe both things can be discussed, i do understand the difference completely, and i understand both things are obviously a problem, and personally i already said multiple times whatr i believe would solve the entire thing, much like when they changed group sizes from 10 to 5 they should change them again from 5 tom 3
crossfaction q would DEFINETLY help ALOT both q times, balance, and avoid syncs at the same time
IL gap between fresh 80 and geared is a bit too big, every season IL jumps too much too, they should be addressing this
removing gear would prob not work, but i believe if we get a lot of the playerbase back over time there is a chance we can havea game mode designed with âeveryone has same ItemLevelâ when they enter
removing gear, would and could create more problems than what people believe, such putting more strain on the meta by having everyone fotm only constantly (if u think everyone follow fotm u havenât thought about what would happen if u also remove the barrier of gearing off the game)
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Thank the gods Venruki is spreading word of this whistleblowerâs excellent investigative work and, even better, is calling for change.
This makes it a little harder for Blizzard to ignore the problem of queue-synching premades.
Iâm hopeful they will eventually do what they did to twinks and just force them to play each other.
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i swear ill try to get in contact with him
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Auto merc is actually a pretty nice addition that makes playing with your friends from the other faction much easier and more convenient.
It is one step further towards abolishing the factions completely for the purpose of casual bg queues, which is probably the final destination we will see In the near future, one or two patches down the line.
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praying for it.
optimal would be 3max size, and u enter u can be on either team, and thats about it.
maybe some incentive to healers to play bg with extra satchel of goods
and then a penalty for multiple dodges too, not for 1-2 dodges, i mean something that in the course of the day just stacks if its like âintended dodgeâ
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It wouldnât take long at all to see the patterns of who are constantly declining queues as opposed to those who genuinely just miss the queue pop. Would be super easy to put something in place to deter that.
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A system similar to GW2âs 5v5 BGs can work as well.
It works like shuffle and you can decide whether to go on or quit at the end of each round.
Itâs just disgusting what happen nowadays.
I swear if they dont do something for the next patch i stop pvp and soon my subs. I guess they dont care about ONE sub but iâm paying to play a game where i can âactuallyâ play. Now, i just cant. Thatâs not fun.
Most above all the things everyone said here, you win what⌠? Like 15 conquest ? SO you intenationnally ruin the game of others just for 15 conquests per game ? At this point itâs just toxicity. And i HOPE everyone using these premades will be banned.
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I wish that was true, but as a developer⌠you would not newly develop a workaround X, if your goal is result Y, which makes X obsolete again. I fear it is just not the road that they want to go. They clearly have the tech for X-faction in M+ & rated pvp. Yet, they chose not to use it
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I donât think that factionless queues will render the auto merc group play feature obsolete.
We will probably end up with a system where your group is assigned to a random faction, but kept together, and mixed groups of up to 5 are allowed. That would be ideal.
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assuming that fun is something subjective⌠however, I wonder whatâs funny about doing something like this in such an organized way when you donât have interesting rewards and the vast majority of the time, after the poor manâs first wipe group they have against, they go to farm them at the cemetery.
And there many click on âcancelâ to avoid being re-killed several times, so at most they stay in the cemetery jumping around waiting for a desperate person who releases and is instantly imploded
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Sad thing is, you canât stop your team for respawning so what you get is half the team stubbornly refusing to stay dead and the other half wasting waiting for them to stop being farmed. Thing is if you afk and say get a coffee or do a daily quest, the system is just pulling some other poor player into that crap half way through, ruining their experience too.
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true
the system keep us like hostage in the game. the debuff / ban hammer or experienced ruin for Xtime because all the night premade keep queueing like their life depends on
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