Dude u can even go in previous expansions and spam war crates if you’re on alliance dominated server.
Update:
Venruki is covering something kind of offtopic, since we want premades out through the window regardless if its done with or without an addon but:
https:// www.youtube. com/ watch?v=P8ONdxmv_7Q
Just confirms how far these people are willing to go just to cheat.
please try make some sense, because none of this makes ANY sense.
not making any excuses, i just stated my opinion on the issue regarding premades and the problems around it, isn’t that what this thread is about you potato.
if you’re going to make the arguement that its fine and makes no difference if your team’s two healers are in full greens/honor gear , meanwhile playing against two healers in full conquest gear then yeah… okay, will be a waste of time trying to elaborate anyfurther.
thats the same as saying “oh its just casual pvp anyways , why should i care about facing a premade in random bgs since its just casual pvp anyway”
people queing up having no gear and facing full teams in conq gear this late into the season is just as big of an issue of not bigger than facing some group ques.
again its a different disccusion/arguement epic bgs, im talking strictly about random bgs.
somebody finally ban the larkus community, he and his buddies use a lot of cheat addons and some of them regularly get banned but talk their way out of it and blizzard believes them lol
Dude, ive seen you and you’re good.
The issue is your wow skills do not translate with your verbal argumentation and you’re talking a bunch of repetative nonsense right now.
You’re bringing absolutely a seperate problem into a different topic.
Many people make this mistake and its impossible for me to guess why you guys do this but you make it seem like you’re just here to gargle for the sake of gargling.
Did you even read the thread? You say this to me of all people here ? Im openly against premades since day 1.
Have you been lurking Us forum Threads? Ex Com Member used to speak out and explain in a Go’gle Doc how these Communitys dodge each other how those two addons work etc. Unfortunally all threads regarding this are either getting nuked or completly derailed by those people and their Naruto Syndrom.
Our queue is too dead tho no need for these Third Party Addons. Spy Char or just looking stream is enough. Begs the Question why it is dead enough for it to work, painting a picture here 
But Ven now covering this and also People admitting that they dodge each sort of resistance to pugstomp is a huge step.
I should take some forum lessons from Murbastic and get myself banned, cause everytime state my opinion on something people entirely misunderstood what i was trying to say and i end up regretting i even made a comment to begin with fml.
my entire point with my initial post was that there’s more problems to random bgs than people playing in premades/group ques.
if everyone had somewhat equal gear on both teams the results of the bgs would probably
be more even and people would be less likely to be fustruated about facing premades if it was a fair game, but often times thats not the case at all cause people are stuck at their own gy.
again i was strictly speaking and refering to random bgs, I fully agree that the premade & synch que issues around epic bgs shouldnt be a thing.
im gona pce it i cba with anymore forum stuff for another 4 months , cya
I mean yea, community leaders and their minions will derail sync premade topics. Thats standard practice since if they fix it, it ruins their beloved experience.
I mean, I didnt even read or look into any of the specific posts about it, but it were clear as day they did things that arent rly allowed. While it might not be as extreme in EU, it def happens and is increasing. Its quite obvious communities use those addons even in EU though.
But yea, no wonder in some of those epic bgs ive been confused why its only 15ppl on one side and 40 on the other.
But I do hope, even when its not likely, when blizz actually do something about it, they perm ban them. Straight up bnet perm ban. Since those addons seems to be quite close to how another addon used to work which they banned from use a long time ago.
Some ppl will always “misunderstand” because they dont read. They read specific words but ignore the rest.
I understood what you wrote, gear makes difference. Having a minimum ilvl template for ppl who are freshly dinged would not be a bad thing in BGs. Having honor gear/conquest gear be less ilvl inbetween would not be a bad thing either. Thats just personal opinions.
But yea, I did read the first person who answered you. The first quote they made and the answer back made absolute 0 sense, after that I just ignored the rest.
Ngl, taking a break every now and then from the forum is great.
Or, and pardon me because im not trying to be disrespectful, but im simply fed up.
But you can simply not bring the topic of Scaling and Gearing into a discussion about Premades.
Just stay on topic. Try to back-up your claims with argumentation.
I dont even ask for much ?
Scaling and gearing is a valid reason to bring up in terms of premades for simple reasons.
The less gear disparity the less impact some premades have when it comes to normal bgs.
Obviously, it might not have insane impact, but it will still have.
Fighting against a premade with 2 full conquest geared healers vs your team maybe having a freshly dinged no gear healer will already cause a loss even from the start. If that healer had better gear/did not get one shot every single time it can still result in a win.
Going from maybe 0% chance to win to roughly 5-50%. Not all premades are good.
(this only works for normal bgs obv, ive had way too many times my team have had almost no gear at all, honor or lower, while their entire team is full conquest except maybe one.)
Sync-premades however is entirely different. I have 0 mercy for those ppl.
No its not.
my previouys guild kicked me for saying noty doing m_+ in wow is like ordering a hamberger and saying u dont like burgets, why did u orger hambger, so i do pvpfopr te to kill time till some godl expa idk what to type next
We don’t use that, we just use battleground Commander and discord / chat
Doesnt matter what you use the outcome is the same.
You are super successful at something you aren’t even trying, let me tell you that.
What u doing here anyway? thought your unsubbed because the meanie premades? 
Playing in a premade against other premades are fun, its even, its teamwork against teamwork. No problem with that. But choosing to play random bg and end up playing against a premade, thats just not fun at all. Its mostly impossible to win. Also, being in a premade against randoms is no challenge at all. Its boring, and i can not understand how those making premades against randoms think its fun. Anyway, premades against randoms are killing the joy of playing random bg. Blizzard needs to fix this, make randoms vs randoms only, and premades vs premades.
There are many guild’s that just do premades. They que and say Enter or Leave Q. They do this all day. There is more premade bg’s than normal que then ever before. One team dominates the other and feel good about themselfs. The most fun bg is those that is close and equal fighting. Worst bg’s are the ones when you dominate the other team. That’s the bg i want to afk, because It’s boring as hell.
What exactly do they get banned for? What are the forbidden addons they use?
Do sync players from other communities get banned for similar stuff?
the addon you’re speaking about is made by a USA Player on the USA Wow servers. Its a private addon only shared to 1-2 people on the WoW US Servers.
No EU player has Community Flare (DETAILS) addon?? its a private addon made by the premade leader in the USA Servers?
They have about 20 Queue drops per Hour and have way more Communitys big and small ones,infesting the game and disrupting everyone. Just like every other Addon its Baseline Code needs to be publicy available which for Cf it is,the cfdetailz version isnt tho.
I also wrote that its not necessary here on eu servers since the Queue has been successfully diminished to just a few Maps which is why this Thread exists in the first place.
All of us face those Groups way more often than the Groups on our Side,can’t be a coincidence.
This being brought to light is a good thing since it shines light to the Problem.
Blizz will either ignore it,look into these two Addons have them maybe excluded,which will bring back scouting,or they will finally do something. Would be a shame if Us server Queues will die down like the Eu ones.
I do wonder tho,why is it that Ex Members over there manage to break the Cycle and come out,whilst here they are completly submissive and don’t dare speaking out despite being not associated with them anymore,opens up a new perspective on this “wholesome” mask being rather dark 
Toxic battleground premaders ruin PVP experience for thousands of people and grief the whole block of the of the game, now its proven that they all use illegal addons that break TOS.
All of them should be permabanned