i apolgoized next time i type hsarser
Then you could have spared us a two-day-long argument if you just agreed to the point that not everything some players perceive as a premade is an actual premade, because thatâs all I wanted to say.
Itâs good that you know these are not real premades, but many players donât know.
The first bg I joined solo today was IoC and she was also in the team.
We had a little chat and she told me she left all communities and only queues with friends and never syncs nowadays. To me, that is completely believable and it lines up with what I have observed. Sometimes multiple groups of strong players get into the same lobby and it may appear as if they are a premade, but they queued up independently, not even knowing that the others are also in queue. This can easily happen when the number of lobbies that open up at one time is low.
People just mistake all types of things for premades, today, someone sent this to Valdrakon.
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Warlod was not even part of our group, but Communista was. Warlod was in the same lobby by coincidence. The opponents just lump every strong player that is with the opponents together and call them a premade.
Neither of us likes sync premades. We just try to find a solution beyond complaining on the forums and reporting them. Reporting them for syncing is pointless.
The community is not used to form synced premades. If you claim it is, you are lying. At most some people ask others if they want to build a group of up to 5 for epic bgs, which is completely fine as far as I am concerned.
some syncers like Zenie are also in the community and they must be in the community because we want to host war games with them. They do not use my community to recruit sync premades, they have their own communities for it.
And this is what we intend to do. I founded the community mere three weeks ago and we already count 500 members and hosted our first event with undefeated forever two days ago. Do you have any idea how difficult stuff like this is to organize when many of the people who promise to participate donât show up, come late or drop out in the last second and you have to find an improvised solution to 7 problems at once for a custom game mode you try out for the first time?
At this point I am just glad we didnât disappoint our partners and cancel the event in the last second like the last guild did.
Besides, I also have a job and a private life aswell as other responsibilities outside of this game, and you complain that 500 members within the first 3 weeks and one event is not enough?
How about instead of demanding, you contribute something for a change, and help us organize war games? Also please donât spread lies about the community.
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Dude you still didnt get the point?
It was about your arrogant way of writing how it is an âalliance problemâ, âattitute problemâ, which it is not. 
Exactly, so go into epics and tell THEM! 
On the forums one simply has more time to elaborate why exactly the groups people perceive as premades arenât real premades.
In game when you are also trying to hold the team together and win the round, you have way less time to explain your reasoning, and people will argue with you.
âWhat do you mean? Of course it is a premadeâ
I simply donât have the time to explain it to everyone ingame in a way they would understand when I am also trying to win the round. The forum is better for that.
If I came across as blunt and condescending, I would like to apologize for that. It was also never my intention to insult the alliance playerbase as a whole, only to make those who always complain about alleged premades reconsider their actions, because demoralizing oneâs team is not helpful.
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Youâre right, they were incredibly disappointing to face.
Nevermind the fact that the ruleset was a little iffy and changed mid-battle to go from âfull capâ to âwin fightâ, or that consumes werenât allowed âbut itâs Well Fed bro, besides it doesnât make a difference x)â okay, so if it doesnât make a difference, why do you have it lol.
But after we had waited 45 minutes they had the gall to gaslight us into it being fine, that we were âbadâ even though rules were scuffed from the get-go, no team deliberation was given (to our side) no time to plan anything (again for our side), they simply wanted to stomp.
I didnât put time aside on my friday night to get told off like that. I expect people to present good sportsmanship, especially when itâs for the sake of a guild getting to flex their muscles. If anything it was a charity for their sake, and they ended up just talking smack back. Remember it was their event, their rules they wanted us to play by.
Honestly a bad happening, this doesnât mean I wonât participate in future endeavours, but I expect better planning and a proper ruleset that doesnât get bent or added on mid-event.
Originally I intended to show up with like 20-25 players for the horde team, choose the best of them and bench the others so we have plenty of options to exchange players, get them all into three separate rooms in discord and let them each discuss strategy, have a target caller etc.
But you know how it is. People sign up and then donât show up. Have a change of plans and donât tell me until the last minute. We ended up with half our team being filler, inexperienced pvpers, some not on discord. Finding substitute players took so much time and the other team was already waiting. And I didnât want to delay any longer or cancel the event.
They were an established guild and know each other for a long time, they were well prepared while everything about our team was poorly improvised. I didnât even expect to win with this team tbh. It was more about testing this custom game mode in practice.
The event that we played was a shadow of what was planned or what it could have been.
That it ended up so lopsided was a result of poor planning on my part and people dropping out last second.
On a positive note, the format has now been tested and can be tried with better teams and we have a partner guild that will work with us in the future for more events, where we will hopefully have a fairer competition. Some people still had fun just for trying out something new.
Itâs unexplored territory. Some bumps in the road were to be expected.
Next time I will finalize the participant list a day before and make absolutely sure that they will really show up and plan in some reliable replacements because this has taught me that improvising so much stuff doesnât work.
I didnât either, I just expected a better attitude from both their team and some of ours.
As Slapshot said, the ruleset that was laid down was bad, and badly explained. When bringing this up they just deflected with âu bad lolâ as if the whole thing wasnât poorly organised, mostly from their part.
I really donât blame you for anything bad happening that day, I was mostly soured out about the negativity. Hell Iâd have stuck out the last round if it wasnât for the bad-mouthing being thrown out, it really killed the vibe for me.
I hope in the future, that such things will be held outside of the game, because even if we were bad, we still stuck out waiting so long, as much for our own sake as theirs. I expect mutual respect in that scenario, which there wasnât.
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Now that the format has been tested we can host it internally in the community with the alliance members that are part of our community.
We have also worked out what needs to be done to get every player onto the same shard. Seen the problems that may arise and so on. All of this has been a good learning experience.
Maybe we practice a bit internally and challenge undefeated forever again in a few weeks, this time with a better team, fairer rules and more preparation.
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Premades and premade leaders are still not banned, fix your game, blizzard
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Premades are still not banned btw
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