I dony buy it.
You can always play Rated 10vs10 or Soloque Rated Blitz along with Wargames.
In my eyes what you say makes very little sense and the only other way I see this happening is you not realizing the actual reason you insist playing Premade- to woop noobs.
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Yeah, I noticed this human warrior who always leads in Epics and I admire his patience. He mostly leads us to victory, but if we donât win instantly people start being abusive. And it is usually people who do not contribute to the BG at all, that immediately start saying he is a âbad leaderâ etc. His strategies are good, but he is still one person, if Horde outdps us it is what it is. People should be grateful someone steps up and tries to work with the team they have.
It depends on the community I guess. If I joined one my motivation would be more along the lines of people actually following orders when leader says âall go hangarâ and not 5 people going mid to die and 5 people going useless docks. You get to play with likeminded people who are capable of following simple instructions, not people who do their own thing and then cry about losing.
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Save your gasslighting.
If theres a single soul youre convincing, its the lady in the mirror.
Actual delulu.
Its like having a playground for highschooler footballers and a playground
for children under 14.
And you choose to go deliberately to the kindergarten playground instead.
Because to my knowledge there is rated blitz, there is 10vs10 rated bgs and wargames and you choose to ruin the game for hundreds of casuals and new players instead.
And thats all there is to it.
No you dony have 20 friends online everyday, who are willing to que together, hours on end either.
Youre just in a premade party sync community.
And theres no excuse for it, especially when its one of the top 3 reasons pvp is in rotting state.
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Aye, about 4 days ago I tried 3 times in a row to do an epic, all tries got a qsync premade on horde side. Decided to just queue up for normals.
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Yeah and theres the Problem the L vs Z once every two days arenât making up for anything if that means they get to stomp 150 maps per week without any kind of resistance/Chance.
Yes i happened to witness his rise and âfallâ from start to now,its kinda sad entitled clowns think this guy alone can lead them to victory and easy blame him whilst pulling nothing in it themselves. Which is why in the end he started to queue with some friends and lately apparantly too syncs here and there a few rounds.
I won with him when he was alone i won with him when he had 2-3 other people with him and also when it was two groups,a few losses here and there arent really an issue.
I dont know how alliance can be so blissful ignorant to actually abuse people trying to make a win possible,how they seem to have the mindset that they deserve to afk 30 minutes chatting after pulling mighty 14 m teamfight dmg,it really is beyond me and it spreads like a wildfire lately.
Dont wanna play anymore leave the bg and make space instead of afking till the end very simple.
I agree on the docks part but having a few in Mid is strategically useful since you can Re-Inc hangar with Demos in Case of a wipe. Its also not to die but more to anticap so in case of a lose the respawn can assist on getting mid and demos are up when everything has wiped and is good to go again. Most leaders actually send some People mid for that exact reason at start. But you are right in a random Group its not the best idea if you can tell you lack certain hps/dps spikes,thats where Rogues come in perfectly.
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You guys went off topic.
Yeah the premade mafia has gone over hand⌠Its same with the boosters. It has taken over the game and blizzard will for sure lose ALOT on this over longterm. Same with bugs. What have happend with the game? Do they really care that little about the players and the game that they just ignore these BIG problems? Its not like its a free game
I âdonyâ care xD
I am giving my POV, not justifying anything.
I guess everyone plays this game differently and has their own motivation, and their right to look for fun in this game as they want, we all pay money for it.
I generally agree that queue-sync premades are bad for PvP participation overall. Boosters are much worse, on a whole other level, and obviously illegal. When people start making money and play this game as their profession (incl. selling rated titles and mounts) 24/7âŚ
When money is in play, the game gets corrupt. That has been since BC the case. Unfortunately, there seem to be enough buyers 
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ran into the same russian premade 3 times in a single day each que taking 30 mins, then ran into another international premade 
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Sync premades can afford to do this simply because they have an advantage in player quality through their selection process. They know that even if they have to fight 35v40 at hangar, they will still win even while outnumbered and also get the other objectives.
If you make a call like this in a random team, chances are you will just be outnumbered and lose, so you need to have every capable fighter at hangar in the start. Sending them elsewhere diminishes your chances to win the first fight drastically.
At most 1-2 undergeared players can go mid and all others should go hangar.
This.
Take out the trash, then make RBGs attractive again, then get rid of syncing and also make random bgs unattractive for large groups so they go to RBGs that should be more popular by then.
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Why would I try to convince you? How does your opinion affect me?
These anti-premade threads usually end up being vent threads where people who lost to premades take comfort in babbling about how premades are terrible players and awful people which is pointless - those who you are hating on mostly arenât even reading this.
Besides, I agree that these synced premades are not healthy for PvP. But I understand why people play them. Playing with PUGs, even as an average player myself, often feels like a lunatic asylum.
Oh I just used it as a shallow example of PUGs being uncoordinated. Though with a random team I would rather do as Fistus said and zerg Hangar, especially since half the raid will quit if that fails.
I usually follow the majority, because I think even a bad strategy has a better chance of working if everyone does it, than if half the raid does something else - then both strategies are more certain to fail. If that makes sense?
You guys are acting really anty-intelligently by bringing a bunch of stuff that are not part of the topic and thinking you paying money somehow negates your negative impact on people who also payed money to play this.
Also before you bring a silly, clearly a typo I made in the heat of a moment why dont you also go to google and search for âlogical fallaciesâ since youre one, with legs, Priskah.
You effective are though. Here im gonna quote what you said exactly after this sentence:
If they remove wintrading, boosters (both legal and illegal) and any form of that idiotic non-sense sure. I would even love to play RBGs again if so.
Remove every single sync premade in epic bgs and I would have alot more fun in epic bgs.
Enforce certain rules in normal bgs (equal gear on both sides) and it could be alot more fun.
Played a normal bg yesterday where my entire team, maybe except one, had full honor or less gear. We faced a full conquest group except maybe one. I looked at all of them.
But I can say for sure, the epic bg sync problem already make me not want to play PvP again for awhile. Every single season ive tried enjoying bgs. Everytime I face syncers several times in a row I just quit and do something better instead. (Normal/epic bgs is my form of getting conquest every day unless I quit.)
And I highly doubt I am the only one who feel and do the same.
I mean, some ppl have the motivation to have fun without destroying what they are supposed to enjoy.
While some ppl have the motivation to destroy every little thing left on what they âenjoyâ.
Boosters destroy the competitive mindset of people as long as they have money and demotivate some ppl to even try due to it.
Syncers destroy casual PvP.
I would not say boosters are worse than syncers in this regard.
One ruins rated and one ruins casual.
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