Theres no such thing as a PvP server, just a ganking server

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Its been the hot topic of the last few days. So a little back story first.

I played WoW 15 years ago and wqs in a succesful Guild, we got some (Horde) firsts on out server, which was a PvE server.

Come to 15 years later, and a few of the old guild decided to start again with classic. They put it to a vote and they voted to play a PvP server, so thats where we all went (get that out there before the “why did you roll on a PvP server then” replies).

Now some classes are fundamentally poor in world PvP, namely mana users, they just wait till you are fighting something else and attack you when low on mana, and you are pretty much screwed.

But one thing, i didnt want to play on a PvP server, not because PvP doesnt interest me, but outside of BG’s there is no PvP, and having played on a PvP server for the last 3 months i stand by that statement.

In all that time i dont think i have actually Player versus Player’d once, i have been ganked when low on HP or mana, have been ganked by players higher level than me, and been ganked when outnumbered (by far the most frequent).

Am i surprised PvP, now with honour, many are complaining, nope, as most servers have more Horde than Alliance the things i just mentioned above only become more apparent the more your server is imbalanced.

I recently moved from a high volume server to a lower pop one (with better balance) because of the above, and would have moved to a PvE if that had been an option.

Anyway, the point was having spent the time on a PvP server there is little Player versus Player involved, its usually a case of outnumber your opponent a d camp somewhere you know they are gonna go, like BRM. The only real PvP takes place in battlegrounds.

So i cant get my head around why putting in honour without them makes sense, if anything it will just alienate players.

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Reroll PvE or quit. Stop crying.

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Servers are overpopulated, on smaller realms things are much better

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You obviously didnt read the post, congrats on that, claps

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Nope I read it and all I saw was PvP happened on a PvP server.

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I love being outnumbered. Let the Horde come, bring it on you swines!!! For the Alliance!!!

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If you think frost mages, locks, shadow priests, hunters, and hybrid resto druids are bad in world pvp I don’t know what to say

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Really? Do they rely on mana to do actions?

If they have no mana, or even low mana can they do actions or how many can they do?

Now whats stopping classes who dont rely on mana so heavily, lets say Rogues (who can strike from stealth as well!), warrior, Hunters, even feral Druids from just waiting till a mana user is below 50% or lower? At the moment the omly thing would be an addon called spy which people are agruing should be banned, and even that just gives them a chance.

Dont be an ignortant ignoramus

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Ehh… yeah. Hunters use mana. Maybe you forgot that’s how it used to be before it was changed to Focus?

Anyway…

One player fought another player. That is PvP. It’s the actual definition of PvP. Fairness or honour is not a requisite.
You’re thinking about something like “Honourable combat” or “Gentleman’s Duel”.
Whether or not you like the kind of PvP that happens on PvP realms is another matter, and has nothing to do with whether or not it is PvP.

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right… there is only ganking in the pov of a noob that can’t even fight back but lets people just walk over him.

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Hunters do not not RELY on mana, if you think so you are a moron, i played a hunter long enough to know. With mana they can do more damage, but they arent crippled without it like thorough bred mana users are

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10+ level 60s ganging up on a couple of lowlevels questing doesnt qualify for pvp tbh. This is usually people who suck bigtime in real pvp.

As you probably do.

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Yeah, nothing like that sweet autoshot dmg in PvP… :roll_eyes:

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Yes keep crying. PvP happened on a PvP server.

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Roll to the allience side on your realm. Then come back and tell us all “I love PVP! Being camped and farmed by groups of 5-10 hordes over and over is what PVP should be like! I especially like how my questgivers are dead. My flightmaster is dead. And i died before i even got off my gryphon. The best part is that they camp the graveyard so i cant even spiritres without getting killed. This is true PVP”
Because that is what is happening right now.

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I swear the people towing this sort of line must by like 9 year old kids living in their moms basement, jamming their fingers in their ears and going “lalalalalalalal”.

But yea keep telling yourself that its just some people that don’t actually like to pvp on a pvp server and nothing at all to do with no option to progress a sub 60 character outside of a lot of annoying corpse runs to each dungeon entrance followed by the same to each quest hand in.

And keep patting yourself on the back once all the normal people unsub and your playing on ghost servers, cause hey, your totally right whilst anyone unhappy with the current situation is always wrong. : p

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probably spoiled 13yr brats and frustrated older guys.

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There is nothing to complain about. Its recreation of Vanilla and phase with world PvP without BGs are part of it.
Instead of crying, Its better to write your friends and make your own group and gang Horde…

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"Pvp happening on a pvp server"is just the most purposefully blunt answer ever. People roll on a pvp server because it’s good player interaction when you meet people of the opposite faction in the open world and you can engage them. But it doesn’t take a genius to see when the situation degenerates into having areas completely unaccessible by their appropriate level players trying to level up because it’s a 5 man lvl 60 party gank fest all over the place.

If you think it’s in blizzard interest to have their players unable to play their game, you are sorely mistaken.

Of course you can’t have perfect matchmaking in world pvp, but you can see how mostly while leveling you meet players of the opposing faction of around your level, because that’s healthy wpvp player interaction and how the game was designed. What is happening now is just a degeneracy of this system and blizzard is not gonna allow this to continue, guaranteed we’ll be seeing bgs come out next week or 2 weeks from now. That’s just how it is.

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No it is not because Vanilla didn’t have servers with 5x the initial population cap.

Phase 2 would have worked if we had servers limited for 3,000 people, the way WoW was designed, instead, it is 15,000 crammed into the same area and it doesn’t work by design.

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