This game is still too time consuming

You literally said earlier…

This would mean you’re running high end keys and with it being plural, well that means more than 1 so even if it was 2 you would only have to do 2 more to guarantee 2 items both of which would be improvements from 194iLvl. Providing you’re not doing any other content.

Because I have no time for it. I’m spamming keystones because it’s the only way I can somewhat progress. Getting to 194 isn’t that hard either.

Theres LFR and normal / heroic dungeons for people who don’t have a lot of time and want a sense of progression / accomplishments.

Give a homeless man a piece of poo in a bag, why don’t you.

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I didn’t say that was bad i said providing you’re doing no other content, so running your high end keys of at least 4 a week you’re guaranteed 2 items minimum by the end of the week plus your chance of dropping in those dungeons.

So you can get ilvl improvements by the content youre currently completing

Either the game is too easy and caters too hard to the casual family people who can only spare 2 hours a week

Or it’s too hard and muh evil corporate over lords player time metrics waaah basement dwellers

If you can’t find the time to play video games then maybe an MMORPG isn’t for you

I mean I’m inclined to agree with you but… you posted… as well…

What do you mean? If you don’t have the time to put in the effort, why should you deserve the same reward as those who do? Should this apply in real life, too?

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Who said I was acting tough? What are you even talking about?

Yes, that’s why I’m at 194. I manage to progress but it’s still very time consuming. That’s literally what I’ve been talking about the entire time.

Quitting WoW isn’t some sort of graduation. WoW is a game that I enjoy even though my life is very busy. If it gets any busier then yeah I’ll probably quit, but that’s something I would hate to do.

Just put in effort 4Head

Effort isn’t the problem. The time consuming nature of Shadowlands progression is the problem. I put in a lot of effort to progress.

But 194 is more than enough for any content, you imply, you are running at the moment.

You said you only run m+ 194 is clearly enough for the “high end” keys you’re running plus any daily activities you may or may not run? Is there a specific reason you need a higher iLvl fast? Because running your supposed keys will gear you up, at 194 you are (would be) ahead of the majority of the player base especially “casual”.

Never said that.

Because I should have the right to progress in the game without giving my left kidney? Both financially and in terms of my schedule.

Good to know?

Ok glad we’ve figured this out…

I am very serious when I say this, I genuinely hope you’re a troll because if not the levels of narcissism you display are scary

Hyperbole and this forum, name a more iconic duo.

Just… progress slower? With other people who also don’t have time to keep up with the maximum pace?

The loot rate (2 drops per M+) hasn’t changed since BfA (assuming you time the run, obviously). There is a strategy in lowering keys until you know you can time them to maximise your loot, or restarting when it becomes clear the timer has been missed. This is on you and your team to manage, but it’s worth discussing up front what you’ll do if it happens.

Maw/Torghast are not that mandatory once you have legendary rank 1. People are freaking out about the difference between +30 secondary stat and +60 secondary stat on a single item. It ain’t worth that much worry.

Take the game at your pace. You sound like you’re trying to keep up with people who have way more time, and there is no need to :slight_smile:

Im so bored of this classic debate.

Classic just takes to much time; no content in classic requieres more skill than any similar content on retail.

I agree the comunity and the feel of leveling of getting a new good item its so good.

Thats why, i like SL, reminds me and makes me feel good when i upgrade:)

No, he is saying you ether spend the time getting 200+ ilvl or do something else with your time. Its called prioritize

Wow … you have some…problems right there.

Not getting loot in a game is THE worst feeling in the world? Geez. Many wants to have a word with you about that …

Then they shouldn’t DEMAND free or guarantee loot. There is plenty of content to do for causals and end game content is NOT one of it.

Blizzard should STOP listening to people like you. I see this type of threads in D3 also. In D I A B L O III. Where you literally get (almost) BiS in few/several days. And…why D3 end up like this? Because posts like yours.

Is like a D football team, DEMANDS to play in A League, because, jobs, and families and dogs to feed and…IS NOT FAIR and they want “end game content” even if they play … causal.

/facepalm

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I really don’t see a problem how the game is now… I got a full time job, married, 2 children ( 3 and 1 year old ) and learning wwb development, and I’m ilvl175 now. As a disc priest who just started playing rated BG, I don’t fell I’m very behind to other players… No hard feelings, but maybe you aiming to high. I know I’m not able to be one of the top players, cuz I don’t have time for it, but I like where I am right now, and I’m totally fine with it. Cheers m8 :wink:

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yye man the game should be zero effort full reward

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yes this game is time consuming but its not THAT time consuming. dont tell me that in 24hours u cant take 2 hours out of ur day and play the game.

i see you still like your own posts on your alts hey

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