it’s getting to a point, where on most tanks it’s getting really hard holding threat on big pulls.
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The entire threat-game should be changed in my opinion, and be decoupled from damage dealt for tank specializations. Yes, there should be ways that the tank can lose threat, but not requiring damage dealers to throttle or “hold back”.
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Maybe, just maybe, the big pulls are the issue.
You only pull as much as you can cope with. If you can’t cope with big pulls then dont pull as much.
Indeed, reduce damage and massively increase the threat multiplier. Same with healing.
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Threat seems to be a bigger issue this season, cant be much fun playing tanks when all the dps rips aggro all the time.
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Play Druid, I have zero issues with aggro on my Druid whatsoever 
Isn’t there some VDH bug going on? I had no issues with my VDH but wasn’t tanking high keys tbf.
VDH does have some weird threat bugs. Some abilities cause no tank level threat unless you’re already in combat.
Prot Warrior deals beans damage beyond five targets with Revenge, Thunderclap, Dragon Roar and Spear. Revenge also has weird range/collision issues if cast while moving around.
Its so bad that most warriors that are pushing m+ are going NightElf for shadowmeld to drop aggro…
Cant possibly be worse than it was in S1, since 11.0.7 already reverted a part of the completely idiotic threat nerfs implemented during tww beta as part of the “cancel tanks” campaign.
Few weeks in, I simply did not inv any retri or shaman, because I knew, I have no chance to keep the aggro if they cd. Often even with direct taunt the mob just turned back after 1-2 sec to the pala.
S1 from tank pov was literally what the maw was probably intended to feel like in SL RP-wise.
Still, not all of it was reverted, yet.
Btw I am still not sure how did we get from this:
To aggro problems being baseline and the general part of the m+ experience.
It was ok for a single week to be more mindful the threat levels, but it sucks as a permanent mechanic.
They might as well have made explosive baseline too. Or bolstering.
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Idk, i mostly play with a brewmaster and he did not have these issues in S1. Maybe its just a brewmaster issue. I see other tanks lose aggro here and there but not as bad as brew.
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DHs threat is bugged as well. They don’t get initial threat on mobs they pull, they only make threat on them once they’re in combat with them and abilities used to pull them don’t make threat.
But I haven’t had any issues with people ripping aggro from me when I’ve played guardian or prot paladin.
Yeah im aware of the DH bugs, dont think i’ve played with VDH this season.
Brewmaster has bugs too. I’m maining one. Keg smash legit evades on mobs at times. Your main threat spell evading mobs on flat surfaces shouldn’t be a thing.
Yeah something feels off. Been playing with this brewmaster since early BFA and he has never had threat issues like this before.
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Plus the damn aoe splash of the hit is ridiculous 
On a serious note theres workarounds the vdh bug, but it is really annoying though. If you dont have spite, sigil of flame or feldev available youre in for a bad time, when you do a pull…
Also i watched a video from yoda giving some tips on tank threat, specifically on vdh. That helped immensely. Only real issue i have now is first pull of priory or CB, but only if some UH procs a juicy bloodbeast. With that said im only just moving my way into 14s now, so maybe itll be worse as the players get better, or maybe it gets better because they know the issues?
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It does get worse. You need to be focused 101% of the time and you might still lose aggro 30 seconds into the pull cos unholy dk beast exploded and he’s doing 45 mil dps on first pull in brewery. It’s stupid
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Well thats just comforting time to add a bloodbeast tracker for my ui haha
There is nothing you can do. Even if they start running gl regaining aggro 
especially on a high key when every mob basically 2 taps dps players.
Fine! You done did it, ill boycut all unholy dks from my keys!
On another note, hearing how bad it is, is quite demotivating
I mean it doesn’t happen all the time right but there will be pulls where very bursty class can just die cos they had proc after proc after proc. idk it’s stupid
Yeah that definitely needs to be adressed. I only pug, so i can already feel the flame coming
“Stupid noob tank, cant even hold threat?!?!?”