It take 7 days for the npcs to move all the resources to silithus once all the materials are handed in. that will give you a pretty much exact time in advance for when the gate event will start, you can assume that the gong will get rung instantly when the caravan arrive to silithus.
With a dedicated guild, this can be done in one week, the limitations being that you need to clear BWL twice after you start the quest. So you need two raid resets
The quest required to bang the gong in order to start the event will take more then 1 Bwl raid lockout. You canât do it in 1 day.
So change the whole event, because 1 person doesnât have the time??
I donât think you understood the OP correctly. This is a genuine thing we have to talk about, not sideline it as âoh, just because 1 person doesnât have the time??â
Hereâs the situation: Original AQ opening event needed us to collect items from scratch that we didnât know we needed to collect along with a long quest chain that needed a lot of running around and collecting. The issue with Classic is that we know what the items we need are and multiple guilds across many servers already have the required resources to hand in all the AQ required resources day one. After the resources are handed in, it need 5 days for these resources to be sent to Silithus. This gives the average player 5-6 days to complete the entire quest chain for Scarab Lord.
The question that people need to identify is this: Is #nochanges accurate if we leave it as is, or would it be more accurate to the time this content was released to have a different grouping of items needed to collect to maintain the same level of concerted joint effort to open the gates? The way to solve this could potentially be a time gate to have people experience the handing in (and collecting of commendations for respective cities) as well as giving people a chance beyond a week to do Scarab Lord.
The OP never mentioned scarab lord, he wanted to see the actual event and was afraid that he would miss out on it cause these guilds would complete it on day 1, which is impossible since it take 2 raid resets to do the questline, and 7 days to transport the materials to silithus before the gong can be rung.
The matter of the questline being completed fast is a entierly different thing, and my point of view on that is of you want to complete this quest, you need to do the work thats required for it. And on some servers, that will include a massive grind to be done with it before someone else hand it in. Most servers however, will take their time and wont have it completed for a good while.
Most servers in vanilla only hand 1 person with the qiraji battle tank(Scarab Lord title didnt come until TBC). Dont see why blizzard would make changes to that.
if you want to enjoy the event for long time?
then donât play on any server with top guilds.
A lot of people seem to have missed the point of this thread/havenât read itâŚ
as I said in the post. it isnât about one person missing it, itâs about a lot of people missing it because of toxic guilds. While I could roll on a server without one, what about all those players that have, and will probably get screwed over by the selfish guilds or even just selfish players?
the resources will most likely be done day one. as from what I can gather, all off them can be done now. The quest might take 2 resets but still doesnât change the main issue, Someone using the gong when no one else is there Which happened in vanilla and was very much hated by others leading to people missing it. Thatâs why I think the gong should Only be usable on a server at a set time when most players will be active.
and just to be clear i am talking about the Opening of the gates themselves. Thats what ive been talking about the whole postâŚ
I canât find the blue post that mentioned it right now, but the devs already stated that theyâre not going to change the items required for the AQ War Effort.
But you have 7 days from the resources are handed in. You can see when the stuff is handed in and is being shipped over there.
There is no difference in the resources being handed in first day or if it take a month, you have 7 days notice from when the war effort is complete until it is possible to ring the gong, once the gong is rung, the event lasts for 10 hours.
Most realms have a discord, and most probably it will be announced there when the gong is being rung.
How many materials have been turned in for the war effort is public knowledge acquired by talking to the turn-in vendors. There willl 10000% be publicly available sheets tracking progress hourly. From the time EVERYTHING is turned in there is a 5 DAYS march to move the materials to silithus, afterwich the gong can be hit and the gates are open.
The only way you will miss this is if you go completely AFK on the patch-day and donât pay any attention for a week.
You are creating a problem that doesnât exist, created by own lack of knowledge.
I understand your concerns, but they are pure speculation and not subject to reality.
7 days notice, does not change anything. (also its 5 days) if from those 5days its at an awkward time some random player can go use the gong whenever and cause people to miss the event, which knowing the community as it is now, is very likely. Guild discords or whatever, wont make up the entire population either. Players these days cannot be trusted to handle big in game eventsl ike this
Stop not reading fullyâŚ
A problem that doesnât exist? this happened in vinilla. Where players usewd the dong to open the gates with very few people there meaning most of the server missed the event because of it.
The resources etc ARE NOT the issue. The issue is PLAYERS and blizzard Should step in to make sure the opening of the gates is seen by as many as possible and cannot be ruined by toxic players.
Yeah, but google sheets and discord werenât a thing back then + people didnât know how it worked. Now that information is easilly accessible and only the minority will be unaware as a result of streamers and youtubers milking the event for views.
Only thing I find toxic here is this thread. Personal experiences have been honed and tuned over time on retail wow, where everyone gets to save the world. In Classic, you are playing on a living and breathing server where everyone is simply a small cog in a large machine.
I see advocating that people play the game the way that you want them to, to be way more toxic than others opening the gates as soon as they are able to.
Just a sidenote here: A lot of servers will take server-wide pride in opening the gates before other servers. Is that toxic? Are you going to stand in ironforge with a banner saying âenjoy the event, donât turn in mats and end it early!!â
All it takes is 2-3 weeks to get the scepters, recipes, gear from CC and summons. Then you can open the gates. Would say mostly the scepters will want a safeguard. If it completes on like second day of second reset then you have 3 resets in total to get ready and no one can cheese it by using it quicker. If itâs done at day one then you have to do the second BWL first thing on reset day to fit withing 24h window if someone rungs the gong first thing after their reset and BWL - that can be quite more taxing - and with people being bit greedy there may be more Scarab Lords in the making with agreement to not rung gong/finish War Effort to early.
You keep seeming to be missing the issue and the worry I have. Having people on discords and making the plan to open the gates is fine, IF the plan is actually followed. Players, these days are much more toxic then they were back in vinilla.
and how is it 1 player making it so the rest of the server miss the opening not toxic? are you mad? That is litterally ruining the event. No one wonder you think this thread is toxic as you dont actually know what your talking aboutâŚand im not saying that I want people to play the game I want⌠Please learn to read.
Having the gates open fastest is all fine. What isnât fine is making so people people miss the opening off the gates. Which again is what im going on about⌠which you seem to miss by your final sentence
I dont care about the mats being handed in quickly and the 5 day thing starting soon. What I do care about it, is some player making it so the rest off the server misses the actual opening off the gatesâŚ
You should read your own sentences and the type of language you are using - as the irony isnât lost on me at least 
What if that plan is to hand everything in within the first hour? Still fine?
I donât see HOW they are going to be able to do that. I provided you with several sources of information that would make it very difficult to miss the opening if that is something you care about - and I completely fail to understand how anyone could even remotely miss the opening, far less how someone could force anyone to miss itâŚ
And the latter of which is something you have been unable to convince me is even remotely plausible.
No. You cant read. As everything you keep saying i have explained why the issue I have is uneffected.
Yes. Thats fine. Because I dont care about the hand ins as I have made clear in this thread. I care about the actual opening off the gates. That has always been what I care about, if you actually bothered to read the thread.
Your sources of information, dont matter. Steams and Discords dont matter if a random toxic player Uses the gong, before the planned community time. That is the worry. People these days are more toxic then they were back then and this even happened back then, were players used the gong before the community decided time. That is how you miss the event and is how one guy forces people to miss it. if you donât understand that, please stop replying.
A race to see which server can open the gates first is fine. But what isnât fine, is the possibility of toxic players ruining it, as ive explained. Which is why blizzard simply need to do the following. Once the resources have been handed in, on the following weekend at a time were players would be most active, the gong can be used. This means that players have A: plenty of time to get to the gates, B: Most players should be available and C: Prevents that one guy from using the gong, at like 4am in the morning.
The opening off the gates should be a community event and shouldnât be spoiled. that is my simple point. Classic, shouldnât really be about world firsts etc as they have already happened. It should be a celebration of the events of vanilla wow and the Opening of Ahnâqiraj is one of them.
The planned community time will be: 120hours and 1 second after everything has been turned in, the time of which will be public information in the sheets etc - perhaps with a margin of error of ~1h or less.
If you think anyone is going to wait, you are wrong - itâs going to be hit as soon as it possibly can, even if that time is 3 in the morning on a weekday. But hey, you had 120h to prepare for that timeslot if you desperately wanted to witness it.
Your opinion.
So change an iconic mechanic to suit your desires, gotcha.
Letâs disect these a bit.
A: You have plenty of time. 120hours in fact. So this already kinda proves my point.
B: Those who want to be available will be. The event itself will be going on for 10 hours to accomodate this.
C: I can honestly see the argument for this, but the fact is also that the guy that can hit the gong is the only person who earned the right to hit the gong and open the gates - and itâs insanely entitled to demand him to accomodate your wishes, you are free to ask ofc.
That wasnât the case for many Servers in vanilla, were servers arranged for a time, that was after the gong could be used, so as many people could be there as possible.
Except players did wait in vinilla, because most were less toxic.
Not opinion. Its a fact, the world first for Câthun was in 2006.
All I can gather from this is that, you are one off the toxic players im worried about. a player who doesnât care about the rest off the server and only themselvesâŚ
I point to the event on Ahnâqiraj illidan, were the server community agreed to open the gate at 6pm, but someone opened it much much earlier. leading to those players being Blacklisted.
No as you miss what I say about it being at the next weekend
Your a selfish player. thats what that statement reads.
This thread has only grown my concern for The opening off the gates as it semes classic is plagued by selfish players, just like retail and is why we cant have events like this anymore.
Didnât know Classic was out in 2006.
This is 2020 though, and itâs highly unlikely that it will happen here⌠And even in Vanilla that was the exception, not the rule.
How is your selfish desire for a grouphug any different? If you go and read this thread itâs riddled with tons of ad-honimens, mainly from you towards people you disagree with - so look in the mirrorâŚ
The fact is you have 0 idea on how intra-realm social dynamics work because you are not on realms creating social ties. If you had spent time in the game rather than retail, spent that time creating power and influence on your realm so what you seek might be possible, you mightâve been able to achieve it, though your social skills on display here suggest that mightâve been a futile attemptâŚ
But instead of creating this opportunity for yourself, you are doding the game and expecting Blizzard to change their game to accomodate your PERSONAL desires.
That really isnât how Classic work.
Iâll cease responding to you from here on. You want to pick a fight, I couldnât care less. Iâve given my response to this thread and you are unwilling to accept any input.
I personally donât care at what time of day the gates are opened as Iâll be there, ready to raid.
Good because you are the selfish player. how is it me, wanting as many people as possible to see the opening off ahnâqiraj? your the one who wants to open them asap, instead of talking with the rest off your serever to find out whats best for as many people as possible, its elitism at its wrost⌠Also. just fyi, I know understand why your like this after a tad bit of research (mainly because I wanted to make sure I wasnât on your server when I start). your tied Classic world first doesnât matter. These bosses in vanilla were killed in 2006, yes its now under the tag âClassicâ but it doesnât change anything.
Explains why you go on about âpower and influneceâ like your a big deal. lol.