Time to decrease sub prices

I don’t think that, I just think it’s understandable they’d want more money out of it considering they invest more into it.

Not me, but you’ll surely have some people crying about the expansion of the shop if they were to remove the sub fees, saying it’s better to have a sub and get mounts ingame (all while spitting on players on store mounts or whatever emote they can still use that wasn’t removed).

simply i dont see any reason to reduce price

That’s true, but I would then argue that people are fools. Or institutionalized as I said earlier, because it is only the WoW players who have this kind of mindset. Talk about being indoctrinated.

I mean, for Shadowlands I’ve paid roughly €140 in subscription costs (as well as €40 for the expansion itself, even though my subscription covers access to the game, but seemingly not that part of the game. Go figure…).

And I think I have received 2 mounts as part of the 6-months subscription offer. So that’s 2x €25 worth of value.

But that still leaves €115 that goes entirely toward “access to the game”.

And since I’m clearly willing to spend that amount of money, then I should of course argue that Blizzard should offer me something of substance and value for that money. Something more than just “access to the game”.

I mean, Blizzard knows I’m willing to spend that €140 on WoW. And I know I’m willing to spend that €140 on WoW.
And Blizzard are happy to get that €140 from my wallet.
But I can’t say I’m happy to only get “access to the game” in return for my €140.

Because Blizzard could so easily give me something of more substance and value.

They simply choose not to (or to the barest minimum with the 6 months subscription), because players don’t demand it.

But if players did demand it to a higher degree, then Blizzard would also seek to meet that demand.

Because they want my €140, and everyone else’s.

Hence why I said way earlier that so long as players just come back in roughly the same numbers for each new expansion and patch, then it’ll be business as usual. But if players are reluctant to buy the next expansion, let alone re-subscribe for the patches, then Blizzard will change their business strategy.

Because they want our money.
And we want value for our money.
So do we feel that the subscription offers value or not?
Time will tell.

Personally though, I don’t see myself being subscribed to patch 9.2 for more than a few months at most.

It Will not do anything. The problem is The systems in SL and there is nothing to do outside of m+, raid or pvp.

But list every single thing you can obtain in the current game. Every single thing that was added in Shadowlands and all of a sudden, there’s a bunch of stuff that is included in the “access to the game” as soon as you leave the city and actually play the game.

If the game isn’t for you anymore that’s fine, but saying you get nothing but “access to the game” when in fact access to the game lets you unlock so many different things (mounts, pets, transmogs, achievements etc.) seems like crying over nothing.

But I paid for that already!

I paid Blizzard €40 for Shadowlands.

That was the cost of the game.

The subscription is on top of that. Ergo it is only for access.

You and I both know it’s not only for that. It’s also for future development, but that doesn’t fit your post does it?

Still plenty of content for your money if you want to, but I guess complaining on forums is a lot easier these days.

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No but let’s cover that, shall we?

Activision Blizzard consists of a number of subsidiaries like Blizzard Entertainment and King and Activision.

Any money that Blizzard Entertainment or King or Activision earn goes into a big pile.

The parent company – Activision Blizzard – then distributes that pile of money across its subsidiaries as it thinks is best.

So Blizzard Entertainment gets a budget to work with that is decided by Activision Blizzard. And how big that budget is depends on the desire of Activision Blizzard to invest in Blizzard Entertainment (versus King or Activision).

So our subscription money or money we spend on the Online Store isn’t ear-marked. It doesn’t say WoW development on it. It just goes into a big pile that Activision Blizzard uses as they please.

Blizzard Entertainment has no say over any money. Mike Ybarra basically goes to Bobby and says that Blizzard Entertainment needs this amount of money to operate WoW, this amount to operate Overwatch, this amount to operate Hearthstone, and the return on investment and projected revenue is so and so, blah blah blah. And then Bobby decides if Mike Ybarra gets the money for Blizzard Entertainment that he wants, or if he gets less or more.

When Blizzard Entertainment gets their budget approved from Activision Blizzard, then they basically have to spend their money accordingly.

It doesn’t matter if you play WoW and pay a subscription to WoW. There’s no guarantee that a fraction of those money find their back to support ongoing WoW development.

When WoW exploded in popularity after 2004, what happened then? All the hard-earned money was spent on developing Diablo III, StarCraft II, and Titan/Overwatch.
That’s where the bulk of WoW money went from 2004 to 2016.
WoW itself just got the bare minimum needed to operate it and develop ongoing expansions.

We call that a cash cow.

And it’s the same today.

What funds Blizzard’s newly unannounced survival game and the upcoming Diablo Immortal and Overwatch 2 and so on?

Your subscription money.
Call of Duty skin purchases.
My Hearthstone pack purchases.
Someone’s mom’s Candy Crush microtransactions.
And some kid buying an Overwatch t-shirt.

It’s all just money going into the same big pile as always.

It doesn’t matter if the money comes from a subscription or an online store or a box product sale. So long as the money comes, then the investment from Activision Blizzard will come accordingly.

Hence why I say that from a player perspective it’s stupid to argue the merit of the subscription, because it’s a thing we pay for where we don’t get anything tangible in return.
At least with the online store we get a pet or a mount in return for our money.

And for Activision Blizzard and Blizzard Entertainment it doesn’t freaking matter how they get our money so long as they get them. If the Hearthstone players can be bought off with some card packs and portrait skins, then that’s how Blizzard will take their money.
And if the WoW players are stupid enough to literally give their money for absolutely nothing in return, then Blizzard will take that money for absolutely nothing.

They COULD decrease sub prices, or they could focus on the reason why people are actually quitting and make the game one that people don’t want to quit! :slight_smile:

Turkish by chance?

Do you work for the Turkish government, I believe that’s how the work out their economic policy.

Supply and demand. High Supply, low demand, price should drop. Market isn’t working here. :owl:

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