Time to ditch factions

There is no point of factions any more, even from the point of game mechanics and story, they serve no purpose, more like a nuisance and a gimmick that causes realm disbalances rendering some servers nearly unplayable for one faction or another as well as adding unnecessary limitations to content access and prolonging group formation, restricting player communication, cooperation and interaction. No more Horde, no more Alliance, just Azeroth.

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Anduin and Thrall don’t represent the factions. The story is far from being cross faction, and it would destroy the warcraft vibe. Orcs need to be against humans. Anything else is just weird to me. Especially now that alliance has turalyon as their leader and we are gonna deal with some light obsessed people in 11.0. What I think they could do though is restructuring the factions a bit and making it align with the current story. Maybe they could add a third “Azeroth” faction, where they put all races that are just horde/alliance for weird gameplay/cosmetic reasons.

For example Forsaken make absolutely no sense currently to be “horde”, and they also don’t make sense to be “alliance”. They should just be their own faction and try to find their place on azeroth. Same with blood elves. Kaelthas isn’t the leader anymore, and they are very close to the light now, probably the most close on azeroth with humans. Blood elves and Nightborne should absolutely be neutral and just fight for azeroth story-wise. With night elves it’s hard to say, and it depends on what tyrande is doing. Humans, Orcs, Trolls, Tauren, dwarves, gnomes, goblins, etc. though should all be in their respective alliance/horde factions.

what if horde and alliance merged would it then become an alliance?

now theres a paradox

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It would become something new - The Federation

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i like that, it has a good ring to it

You can be a separate polititcal entities without actively killing each other y’know.

PvP exists

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ill be separatist and my party will be named Foundation

but i like the ring on this Federation on horde alliance merge

you would probably not get any old players to return to retail, if anything you would scare active retail players off making the pool even smaller once more
maybe to classic
maybe to somewhere never to return again

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like the wow bus commercial which side will you sit when people have those horde and alliance logos :slight_smile:

The Federation of United Azeroth… Or simply “TFUoA”

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It would also be kind of cringe, if warcraft devolved into some typical super hero story telling, where everyone is one homogenous entity vs the evil. We might be defenders of azeroth, but that doesn’t mean we get along. I don’t like this. I also think 2 factions is too simple though with the current state of the story…

Your faction dictates what your capital is, what kind of races you can choose and the various starter zones attached to those.

Whilst we needed cross faction play to counter the Alliance dying out, I don’t think we are going to be faction less any time soon.

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I think perhaps more factions, where players can choose themselves where they want to belong, and with the consequence of being kos to guards in certain cities etc could be great. Especially if it comes with questlines, reputations, the whole shebang.

And then remove the restrictions from a gameplay pov. Remove the language barrier. Make it a whole, while still having faction flavour, with consequences. I’m guessing tensions between certain factions would be more realistic then too instead of flogging the dead horse that is Alliance vs Horde once again.

The Alliance will continue bleeding players, more and more barriers will be removed, Horde and Alliance as distinction between players are utterly irrelevant for all of DF already. (Kids mucking around in their PvP sandboxes aside, anyway)

So who are you to decide it’s time to scrap an integral part of this game’s legacy?

No thanks.

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horde vs alliance <3 otherwise we might as well delete pvp from game.

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It will be Team Alleria versus Team Xal’atath in the future. Two different sort of factions. :wink:

I think that was aimed at me? I’m just a forummer, giving my opinion, like everyone here lol.

Right now we have Shandris and Voss skipping through the Emerald Dream, becoming bff’s, a few years after the burning of Teldrassil. The way this faction conflict has been working in WoW is whiplash inducing.

It can hamper characters and their story arc. Consider Baine. He never does anything. Now why is that? He can’t because tauren are a part of the Horde so no actions aligning with your principles for you Baine.

Consider Calia. She who must make the Forsaken redeemable and huggable because apparently that’s what we’re going with (why?!) instead of the Forsaken’s originally very interesting morally grey background.

It’s a few examples but for me it’s clear the writers themselves are struggling with this whole ‘faction conflict’ and where to go with it. Personally I’d love it if there could be a quite dark and evil-esque faction, and a Light centered one, and a Nature one, and an Arcane one etc. With interesting crossovers where characters can choose between several factions. And maybe finally add class customisation as well, so you can differentiate between a human paladin and a tauren sunwalker. One Light focused, the other Nature, spell effects and such visually representing that.

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That’s the problem, with Tauren, Forsaken, and Night elves too, they don’t have much in common with the factions they were lumped into just because they were important races in “Warcraft III”.

Tauren don’t want constant war like the rest of the Horde seems to, the Forsaken are… well, forget “Morally grey”, they’ve been downright evil and as gritty as a gravel tennis court since Vanilla (One of their greeting lines is “Death to the living” FFS!), Night elves have been neutered to purple humans just to shoehorn them into the Alliance.

I understand Blizz wanted to play things safe at first, WoW was a huge venture, so stick with what people know from the RTS-games: “Alliance vs Horde, RARR FIGHT!”, and cram in every race that was shown in WC3, but we’re close to 20 years down the line now, most players can’t remember the RTS-games anymore, and AvH is just a millstone around the story’s neck by now, and it’s time to (PvP aside) cut it loose.

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