I don’t think TF was really bad. At least for dungeons.
In raids it’s understandable to remove TF, you shouldn’t be able to get mythic ilvl loot from normal mode bosses. The WF +6 ilvl was still nice though and a motivation to kill bosses instead of having to waste time on them to get to the one you’re progressing on.
But a complaint I have often read over the last patch is that lower dungeons feel unrewarding as there’s not even a chance for an upgrade and still the need to do them for the RIO score.
I met people who liked and disliked TF. Some loved the endless progression on one chara, some stopped playing because of it.
There is no real answer to the question how good/bad it was.
I can just say for myself that I never really had a problem with it but also don’t care too much about it being removed.
its intended design was the allow Raiders to push past bosses they physically couldnt do by offering them a chance to farm a ilevel boosted item to try and overgear said fights.
not alot of players like this… they like a finish line where they can go have a break and come back next tier.
it doesnt actually
what happens is ur little guy doing +5s each week for his fun content, ends up in a position where to upgrade Pieces of is armour he’d have to do a +12.
This actually Short term increases his loot and ability to get loot. but long term throws him under a bus in how many difficulties he has to jump through for upgrades.
Dont bother Athiyk. Tahra is a well known forum edgelord who likes to defend bad designs because he likes them. Doesnt matter if they ruin gameplay as long as tahra approves its a good design
I don’t really care either way. But the reduced drop rate of gear to “compensate” for not having a titanforging system which I never cared about might suck. Ultimately it’s a matter of how many alts I can maintain.
Warforging - Titanforging made World Quests that rewards Gear Irrelevant.
As it’s set to 415 - 420 ilvl.
I’m not against it’s removal, but it was somewhat a " Catch-up Mechanic " for alts.
I feel like you should have way better Control over the Warforging tho, if you played Mists of Pandaria you know exactly what im talking about!.
Bring Back Valor Upgrading!
That way you can control your upgrades!, We saw the same kind of feature in Nazjatar with upgrading the Benthic gear.
Or you could realise that it is possible to be happy that your friend got an amazing TF but still be disappointed with your own lacklustre loot, that you both put in a great effort, or not, that you got two totally different rewards for doing exactly the same content.
A friend of mine who was a terrible player (but a lovely person) was the 5th highest geared player at one point thanks to TF. It is not wholly unreasonable to expect skill and progression to actual mean something in the game without having to make silly comments making out people are selfish. We can make either side of the argument about being selfish but it’s just not relevant.
Pretty sure my main got 475 early march, not my problem.
However I came into this topic to poke at people who think that removal of TF will take away their stress with gearing, cause it’s not gonna be the case.
Back on topic
How many “where is my weapon emissary” threads popped up here?
Now imagine how many casuals wake up to the fact their weapon is heroic dungeon one for few months straight
actually I liked running mythic ToS when argus was current. Using outdated sets (2 set from ToS on frost mage) even though their ilvl is lower is kind of neat
Quit trying to be perfect, we’re all human, we would all be annoyed if our friend got something from sheer luck after you worked hard to get it.
And here is the kicker, not only could they get the same “grade” as you, but they could get an even better grade. So in the scenario you responded to imagine if it’s more like you got a B, your friend got a C but then theirs magically turned into an A.
It’s all well and good to pretend you’d be nothing but happy, it’s easy to judge and make ideal scenarios in your head. It is a whole new ball game when it actually happens.
