Video Title: To Blizzard: This is EXACTLY How To Fix M+, By Quazii WoW
Everything said in the video, a vast vast majority of the M+ playerbase aggres with. So pls just take abit of time to watch it. Ty<3
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An url would be nice 
Watched. I disagree with basically everything. TWW S1 is quite fine as it is.
But thanks for the video suggestion.
Highest key you have done is +6. You are not playing enough mythic plus to have valid opinion on his suggestion. It is for people who actually do the m+ content.
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for you only perhaps
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If only it would be possible to have different characters. Maybe in another dimension.
Judging by threads and comments on this forum, I am absolutely a minority here with this opinion.
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Of course he thinks itâs fine. Heâs one of those lesser experienced player that got a rio boost and is now in the same key range as those who did 10 key levels above him in the past. These are the players that mostly thinks M+ is âfineâ at the moment. Players that in the past been between 1500 and 2000 rio now suddenly get grouped together thanks to the squish with people that used to be 2500-3000.
/ Furfurh@TarrenMill (my hunter, I like to back up my posts by telling my main in case someone doubt my experience, they can just go and see my logs from pretty much all m+ seasons)
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Oh my sweet summer child. If only you have stayed in school just a bit longer, you wouldnât look such a fool.
Me having every single Keystone Hero since BfA S2, or having 9 alts, all with their own Keystone Master doesnât qualify me to have an opinion on M+? Sit down, son, I donât have time to explain this game to you, just pay attention.
My main is Zulukarr@Magtheridon
Difference is, I get my score by only tanking and healing, not by getting carried by the other two DD players.
Everything I said is still valid and applies to you, based on your logs. Donât know why you getting defensive. Your logs sucks for Zulukarr as well?
Sure, keep throwing âchildâ and âsonâ around you, Iâm 39 years old thanks. Iâm not looking like a fool. Can assure you that the vast majority sides with me on this.
âDifference is, I get my score by only tanking and healing, not by getting carried by the other two DD players.â
Check my logs (doubt you know how the inspect logs deeply) - do I seem carried? Also, remember - ALL my M+ runs is solely pugging. Every season.
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Not a serious M+ player. But I think the depletion penalty is really annoying.
To solve pug issues, a better system would be to penalize players who leave a key when it was listed as a âcompletionâ. Of course it works only when thereâs a reward for completion thatâs substantially better than what it is now.
My other grime is how mythic rating or rio is simply not enough to gauge a player to be invited. Scoring system like the Wipefest website (I know it has its issues) could be better than just rio. I have been in a group that +2ed a +8 key where I died twice because of my stupidity. Technically I shouldnât be awarded any ratings, but I was.
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For anyone like me who couldnât be bothered watching the video (or look it up), a list of the subjects being covered. It prob says everything about what the creator is going for;
1. Valorstones uncessary?
2. Crest Droprate is BAD
3. Crest Discount Achievement Unrealistic
4. Crest Required For Crafting TOO EXPENSIVE
5. Targeted Slots & Item Upgrades
6. Rewards Need Improvement
7. Review Challengers Peril Penalty
8. Graveyard Updates After Each Boss
9. Revisit Depletion of Keys
10. Too Expensive in gold
11. Mobs Recasting vs AoE CC Stops
12. Lack of Tanks & Tuning Disaster
13. Lack of Healers
14. DPS is a queue simulator
15. Poor dungeon design and choices
1-6âŚyeah, could have one-lined it in that the gearing system (upgrade/tracks) is just unfun.
7. non-issue for 99% of the players, after the 90s buff
8. Eh, sure
9. Give it charges, done
10. Yep
11. Yep, revert the spell queue change (or add some sort of buff after interrupting, gotta incentivize interrupting)
12. Always has been an issue
13. Always has been an issue
14. Always has been an issue (and we see that a queue system isnât the answer either, see SS/Blitz, quite long queue times anyways)
15. Canât agree
You said that a) I am inexperienced and b) I am grouped together with significantly higher rio players because of the key squish.
Of course your opinion is invalid. I am willing to bet money that I am more experienced in M+ than you ever be (seeing how I am playing all three roles and on 25+ specs). But also, I am playing with higher rio players than me simply because of the tank and healer shortage. So you are wrong about that too.
I am getting defensive over blatant ignorance. You inspect a character of mine and suddenly my arguments are invalid. Get out of here.
Seeing how my 5/8 M, 3k+ scored healer friend says I am one of the most reliable and solid tank he knows, I would doubt I âsuckâ.
I wouldnât know. I play completely vanilla, zero addons. Not even damage meters, route planners or DBM. I like to count everything in head.
I donât care about the majority. I judge arguments on their own merits rather than what has received the most popular vote.
People were upset about the tank nerfs. I played all 6 tank specs in DF and I can tell you they were way over-tuned, so I was happy about the nerfs.
Weird flex, but okay. I do play about 20% of my keys with friends, not sure what difference does that make.
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All your arguments renders invalid since you openly admitting to you donât know how to inspect logs (which isnât an addon). You KNOW what kind of player a player are if you can read logs.
And the number of toons isnât equivalent to experience. Amount of M+ runs are. I have literally more than thrice the runs than you, per season, making me definitely a more experienced player (which you would have known if you inspected logs). And I also played alts (on the same level as my main) during all seasons.
And 5/8M this far in isnât even a little impressive. By this time, in a new tier, I had Cutting Edge when I raided during BFA (again, see logs).
Also being 3k rio at the moment with this dungeon system isnât either very impressive.
âI am getting defensive over blatant ignorance. You inspect a character of mine and suddenly my arguments are invalid. Get out of here.â
Yes, because I KNOW how to read logs. I KNOW how to inspect a players gameplay by logs.
And my numbers were wrong. Had to google KSH achievement (which also is a weird flex) - people in the ranged of 2500-3000 are now in the same range as those who were 3500-4000.
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Thatâs all I needed to read. The rest is redundant. Thank you for your input. May the ignorance be strong with you.
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Did it ever cross your mind that youâre an outlier here?
I canât speak for everyone, and neither can you, but Iâll go out on a limb here and say that the way this season is designed as a whole with tuning, rewards, etc is only fun for players who are capable of cruising through +12 keys and up. As we speak, that is about 3% of the M+ player base. Everyone else have to suffer for mere scraps.
Even if you lower the bar to the bracket I played, which is timing all the +10 dungeons, thatâs still less than 20% of the player base.
A few weeks ago I saw player after player on my friends list just disappear from retail, or at least not doing keys anymore. Many of them often play for the entire season, with maybe just a few weeks off at the end. Now itâs just a ghost town. Not saying that my friends are somehow a universal metric, but when people just disappear before the halfway point of the season itâs a pretty clear indication that theyâre not enjoying M+.
Definitely have, but also, bear in mind that the loudest people seem the biggest. Even if only 5% of the player base unsatisfied and the rest is content, if only the 5% post on the forums, it will make the problem look far bigger then what it is. Would you leave a post in the forums if you were happy with the season? Have you ever been happy with any season and have you left a post to voice that opinion?
Can you please detail what are we suffering for? Arenât we getting the same Crests, Valorstones, Drops and Vault slots?
Is it possible that the season doesnât have anything to do with it? Maybe Christmas, New Year, work, maybe?
If you canât do +10, the rewards suck and you wonât get the higher ilv gear from vault, which usually served as a way to gradually overcome a few extra keystone levels. This is why I quit playing alts this season.
Nope. Literally everyone I asked has quit M+ because of poor rewards and burnout. The are playing other games, WoW classic, etc so time is not an issue. Normally the same people would play a bunch of alts, but this season they just quit after getting +10 portals on mains. Crest requirements for upgrades and crafted gear, and mandatory +10 for myth track are the big culprits.
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But 626 is absolutely enough to complete a +10 on time. And you can get there without ever stepping into +10.
You quit playing alts because you cannot gear them to literally BiS 639, only to 626?
Well, if that is their experience, I guess thatâs their experience.
Well, i do not agree with how is is communicating because you are allowed to have your oppinion and post it, but getting 626 on an alt without M+10 vaults is an absolute nightmare which takes 10 thousand years. It requires some special dedication.
I am now on 5 weeks M+ without the time of gearing by delves on my monk. I did every week 4 delves on it since expansion launch and i was 607 when starting M+ 5 weeks ago. I did over 10 keys per week and now i am on 622. And i have 2 myth track items.
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Bro dont waste your breath on Nellja i think either he/she works in blizzard or paid by them even the elitest are speaking up how this season sucks