its not stupid solutions.
its very good learning experience for a lot of people around.
i personaly like it because this shows how incompetent so many people who are in high keys are .
they always has been but the weight of a lot of affixes was on tank / healer in past.
finaly dps have to do stuff too.
Even though fewer classes can deal with Afflicted, I find it milder than Incorporeal. Overlaps are just less punishing. Oh, you both CCd the same ghost, and now you have cooldown so you can’t do the other. Overlapping dispels, well, someone might waste a global and that’s all.
By the way healers, magic dispel will not do it, you need to talent it up to also dispel curse, disease or poison (which is also why warlocks can’t help).
Healers who learned the hard way: 2
Healers who learned the easy way: 1
Healers who already knew: 0
Also, while rogues and hunters can’t do anything to Afflicted, they can help with Raging, which actually most classes can’t.
But yeah, I do not envy DKs and warriors lately.
Yea, just so you know, you have no idea wtf you are talking about.
This is an mmorpg=typical answer of people who don’t actually have a point and are just looking to justify their stupid reasoning. It’s lazy thinking, it’s the type of argument that people who have no idea wtf they are talking about make, in other words, it’s a non argument, and can be completely dismissed, because it generally ignores the context of the discussion.
Just to make it easy to understand ill make a short example of such discussion:
Let’s say you explained why this is bad, and the reasons for why it’s bad. And your answer is “but it’s an mmorpg” See how dumb you sound like to people who actually think stuff through? Your argument is nonsense.
You have voice comms= Total bs, first of all it assumes people always have a microphone, and second, why would i want to connect to voice comms into a pug? For random people who i will likely never meet again? Also why would such coordination be required on anything below a 20? Like are you crazy? Are we seriously gonna start arguing that it’s fine to have to connect to voice in anything that is not top tier content?
Your point ignores the reality of the situation. Many classes are objectively at a disadvantage, and no, just because it’s a 'mmorpg" Doesn’t mean it’s fine to exclude classes from certain content, simply because they have no way to deal with it. This will mean that classes that don’t have a way to deal with this mechanic will be disproportionally not invited into groups. You are literally alienating your player base.
And finally, “the affix is easy as long as you have people who know what they are doing” Yea no s sherlock, what other words of wisdom do you have? Must have been difficult to figure that out huh?
Afflicted is just a bad affix.
Explosive was a problem due to the horrible UI.
Then they turned it up a notch with afflicted. Now they’re friendly targets, so you can’t even modify their nameplates to make them easier to target because they’re friendly targets and we’re not allowed to modify friendly nameplates.
It’s way too hard to target them when they spawn in mob packs because the nameplates either bounce around like mad or they’re overlapping other nameplates AND their model hitbox is conflicting with other mobs in the pack, so you get the mobs as targets. It really should override other models hitboxes if they’re anywhere close to the same position as anything else if they’re not going to let us alter the nameplates.
Can they just design an affix that works with the UI we have? We shouldn’t be fighting against the UI.
Like, right now the best way to be targetting them is to turn off enemy nameplates when they spawn and then dispel them and then turn enemy nameplates back on, just to get rid of most nameplates on the screen. LIKE, WHY IS THAT EVEN A THING. WHY DO YOU DESIGN SUCH A HORRIBLE AFFIX.
I was referring to your “Next time be careful what you wish for” comment which is beyond idiotic. Players can only ask for a solution. The delivered product is out of their control.
And regarding Affliced and Incorporeal, I do find it stupid, despite it being easy. For me, as a warlock, Incorporeal is just an annoyance that I’m often left to solo, costing me 1-2 globals each time, and sometimes more if they spawn stupidly far away because both banish and fear “only” have a 30yd range. Sure, I’ll do it without issue, but I’d sure rather it didn’t exist.
So, Warriors need a huge dps buff to compensate for their lack of utility. This is all I’m seeing here! Get to it Blizzard.
Apparently not for you 
Really? I seem to remember Hunters having something in their arsenal that could be a dispell ? It was/is called Tranquilizing Shot or something like that. Has this been removed from their kit or does this not count for the affix ?
They’re friendly targets.
Tanks can deal with them, Monk, Druid, Paladin. Most people play these tanks anyway plus some DH ones.
If you get a DH bring a hybrid dps.
Warriors got a party/raid def cd in rallying cry. How is that not utility? Just because they cant cc and dispel doesnt mean they don’t have utility. Monks can dispel and cc but dont have party/raid def cd even as Mistweavers.
Well… I mean… you’re not wrong OP, exactly, but you are guaranteed to have one player who can, the healer, so all you need is one of 7 classes on the DPS or tank role, and you have 4 chances to get one. That’s a 5% chance of you not getting one by inviting completely random players.
I can see how the affix can be boring for some classes, but it’s certainly not going to prevent me from inviting warriors or DK’s, though I am a mage so I’m guaranteed ok… so, yeah. Think you’re all exaggerating a little.
The problem is when people wanna run weird party combinations.
I avoid that even with guildies when there is need for an extra reliable interrupt (as in resto shaman) or 1-3 poison/disease dispels.
Sure… but these weird comps will be rare. Very rare.
I suppose the idea is the healer will heal them up and they disappear?
Haven’t done a dungeon yet this reset, obviously.
Seems to be intentional then as Blizzard must have been aware of the fact that some classes cant.
Unlike last week, fewer classes have the ability to counter the affix, as the affix needs to be healed or dispelled. If you have 2 or more classes with a dispel in your group (hybrids + Mage), the affix is really easy. Simply dispel one add each time and the affix is countered. However, if you don’t have 2 or more classes with a dispel, you’re probably in for a rough time especially if your healer needs to dispel something else or during a high healing mechanic (like last boss Vortex Pinnalce) – enjoy your 100% Haste reduction. At the very least, 100% Haste reduction isn’t nearly as punishing as a 50% damage and healing down from last week.
More classes are simply passengers along for the ride this week, so Hybrids (and mages) will be in huge demand this week, just make sure to take your dispel and this affix will be a non-issue and you’ll probably get invited to lots of groups!
If so, they screwed up big time.
I mean, what is the point of designing 3 new affixes that are non existent for my prot pala, and undealable by others?
Get a hybrid with bloodlust (like shaman) and a hybrid with combat res (like druid). Then you get 3 classes you want. Just dont make a random group composition. Pick classes that make sense, dont bring someone because is X player.
Ok it seems that Lilíith enjoys just being a contrarian. On all of their characters they have only done a few with Incorp on low key levels and none with Afflicted. Typical forum warrior who has no experience on the issue they so vehemently disagree with.
Who knows what goes on in their heads.
I personally have not done a dungeon yet so have seen how the affix is playing out. The wowheads explanation seems simple on paper but I am guessing by this thread its not.
It’s a fight against the UI, just like explosive. We’re not actually fighting enemies but the UI.