Too many buttons

A pretty bad example for a long cooldown considering that with its cooldown reduction it’s closer to 30-40 seconds effective cooldown.

Also it depends. Breath of Eons might be a 2 minute cooldown but you probably don’t want to play augvoker without binding it.

in the talent tree you can use many passive talents in that way the buttons to press will go down drastically and BM hunter/lock are good classes to do just that.

There is also an addon that can help you learn what your rotation is supposed to be like by recommending the next spell etc
It in no way makes anyone a top dps, but it helps someone with no clue to perform average.

The most important thing in handling the buttons is to organize the keybinds so that you have modifiers for all the things you will use often enough.
Q,E,R,T,F,G,T,Z,X,C,V,B,1,2,3,4, mouse button 5, mouse button 4, middle mouse button for the main spells (these alone are 16 buttons)
Alt modifiers of the above for the more common cooldowns or some AoE
Shift modifiers for major cooldowns and
Ctrl modifiers for whatever else.
16 x 4 = 64 available keybinds without getting an MMO mouse.

On a big AoE pack and briefly yeah. But it’s quite clear you have no idea what you’re talking about.

All the time.

And why wouldn’t I count RoF? It’s a damage spell that must be used.

See this is the problem with you lot - if it’s low cool-down it’s not a cool-down really, and if it’s a high enough cool-down it isn’t really an ability that matters, and using this warped logic you convince yourself, and try to win others, that your bars are empty, when in truth they’re bursting at the seams and all the newbies are crying out in pain. And a lot of pros, too.

Come if Cold resets the cool-down of several AoE spells. If you’re not using it, you’re definitely not doing 500k DPS in AoE. You are either a liar or clueless or both.

And yes, PvP is mentioned frequently here, but to separate it I added a little header over them. A header I must have assumed you missed.

And the least popular. Funny that.

The reason PvP is dead is because nobody can penetrate into it, and one of the big reasons for this is that Blizzard keeps making things evermore complicated because a subsection of the playerbase are quite vocal that unless they get to play a video game and the piano simultaneously they’re not having fun. My message to those is how about no? WoW was not designed to be that game, ever, until now.

He chose to play something that should have been to his tastes but wasn’t because he was overwhelmed. He’s not the first by a long shot, and by the looks of things he won’t be the last either.

I’m glad there are people speaking up about it.

If you like wow go to WotLK servers. Its a great balance between classic and retail. No 1 button spamming and no playing Rush E with your keyboard. 10 buttons on average including utility. And soon will be chance to kill wo…w…khough…Arthas.

QWERT `
AD
ZXCV
12345
Shift+123
Shift+QWE

Strafe with S+F

Have big 5-10 minute cooldowns buffs to 6, Shift+A/D, 7, CTRL+`, CTRL + 123

I have literally been playing since vanilla and have never ever used an MMO mouse, my fingers are too big and clumsy for those tiny side buttons. THERE IS ENOUGH KEYBINDS FOR ANY CLASS.

Literally the only class that can complain is maybe Monks and Resto Shamans.

This is not League of Legends or a First Person Shooter.

Jesus christ

And Stanley pushed a button…

I use a one handed keyboard for Wow and bind every ability I need to that one handed keyboard, works well enough, maybe get yourself one too, they’re only £10 if you find them on deal.

These are not enough binds to play a frost mage.

Not even with 6+SA+SD+7+C`+C1+C2+C3 do you have enough.

And with my hand size I’m not even remotely interested in using these binds. It would be hell. Hell at the doctor’s possibly.

I think we have more than resto shamans, too. But it’s close.

I haven’t checked and my brain is a sieve so I must have forgotten a couple as well but psychic scream, mind vision, feather. To be fair, the only use I’ve ever found for mind vision was checking how many are guarding a flag in a bg, maybe I’m not smart enough to figure out its real potential tho.

The interesting thing for me is that having played priest so long, all these abilities make sense and they don’t really feel like a lot. Useful, some situational, but cool. If they are talents, I’ll know when what makes sense most of the time.

It’s only when I try a new class I’m not well acquainted with where I go: oh geez another level and two more abilities and I can’t talent a passive and omg this bar is only getting fuller and I still haven’t properly checked how that ability works that I got 5 levels ago! It is overload then. Never mind the finnicky nitpicky stuff about optimal use of this in combination with that but if this happens you should do this instead and then that.

Really?? Because i’ve just YouTubed Frost Mage players doing +28/+30 keys, I can’t link youtube videos for some reason but you can check out Manather, and other top FMage players.

There’s barely 3 bars of skills in their UIs.

And don’t get me started on Fury Warrior, there are classes in WoW you can EASILY get by with only 2 spell bars by using efficient macros.

Here are my binds, so you can see for yourself:
½ - Invisibility/Mass Barrier (depending on spec)
1 - Ring of Frost
2 - Counterspell
3 - Blink
4 - Greater Invisibility
5 - Mount
TAB - Ice Nova
Q - Ice Lance
E - Frostbolt
R - Flurry
T - Trinket
CAPS - 2nd trinket or slow, depending on PvP or not
S - Comet Storm
F - Glacial Spike
G - Cold Snap
< - Alter Time
Z - Mirror Images
X - Cone of Cold
C - Frost Nova
V - Pet/Nova
B - Health potion
S1 - Quaking Palm
S2 - Spellsteal/Decurse
S3 - Displacement
SQ - Polymorph
SE - Ring of Fire
SR - Ray of Frost
ST - DPS pot
SF - Ice Bomb
SG - Special action button
SZ - Slowfall
SX - Dragon’s Breath
SC - Fire Nova
SV - Shifting Power

MB4 - Ice Barrier
MB5 - Ice Block
MWU - Frozen Orb
MWD - Blizzard
SMB4 - Cancel Alter Time

CR - Time Warp

Ignoring from here on down when counting:
CQ-E - Polymorph arena1/2/3
CA-D - Interrupt arena1/2/3
CZ-C - Dispel me/party1/2
C< - Arcane Intellect
C1-3 - various foods

Alt: Modifier for focus target

12*3 = 36. 3 full bars is way too many, and if you notice his middle bar has 18 skills, aka it’s 1½ bars. You’re confirming the problem, I just don’t think you quite realize what you’re saying.

2 bars + pots and trinkets is, in my mind, the correct amount. Any more than that and we’re heading into some serious madness, and we are well past that point. Got a whole bar more than that.

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In my UI you do not even see 3 bars. A lot of players make clean UI’s. You do not need to see spammable abilities or abilities you only press on a certain proc. You use a WA for those.

Horribly inefficient.

12345 is prime real estate and you’re using that for Mass Invis/ Ring of Frost, Mount.

E is probably one of the best keybinds, again, I repeat my original statement, how often do you actually stop to cast frost bolt.

Slowfall is not that deep, what is a special action button? You mean like when a boss gives you an item to use for a mechanic? Lol how often are you using that. Iceblock, a 3 minute cooldown on MB5, are you srs?

Dude no offence but go and watch a video on how to optimise keybinds, you can’t complain when this is horribly optimised.

Try this:

1234QWER = rotation spells
Shift Q/W - DPS Cooldowns (Icy Veins)
Shift E - Big Defensive (Turtle/Block)
Shift 123 = IMPORTANT Utility/Defensives, think stuff like Shift 1 for Alter time, Shift 2 for Ring of Frost
MB4 - Interrupt
MB5 - Blink
ZXCV - utilities/CC
A - Polymorh /Heal
- for trinket, T is a horrible keybind for trinket unless you have massive hands, your pvp trinket should be something you can instantly use with your left hand without even moving Shift+ - Healing pot
T - displacement/feign death/thunderstorm

I know mage has a lot of spells in comparison to like most melee specs for example but come on bro, you cant be 1 for Ring of Frost and then complain.

Also, PvP is always going to be more keybind heavy.

I can guarantee you, people just timing +20s aren’t using half of their utility, really the only thing you need to remember to use as a mage in M+ or raid is Mass Barrier.

If you’re going to be playing like top 1% of players then don’t complain about keybinds, you’re not casual.

Damn…
Frost mages went so far from just spamming FrostBolt

Even this is too much for me, I use 1-5 and QERFG and sometimes `. Some use harm/help macros to put 2 abilities on the same bind, in rare cases I use a modifier but only if the 2 abilities are kinda similar (like both are holy power spenders or both are dispels).

The rest I just click.

I assume you meant Blast Wave?

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You’re making your life really really really hard with this system lol… If you move with your keyboard and use your mouse buttons efficiently, it’s rly much easier…

Especially, when you have abilities that you wanna press while doing your damage rotation. It’s much easier having them on your mouse too. Else you have to move your hand like crazy.

I set up a rogue now for a potential new main next season, and I didn’t even need a shift modifier for all the 40 abilities +6 focus macros.

I recommend using “Q W E” for movement and be more mindful with how you use your targetting macros. Do you really need arena 123 for everything, or is sometimes rightclick to set focus and shift+ ability better? Or mouseover Decurse might also be smart and you save yourself a lot of keys, because you probably can move your mouse to the frame as soon as you see a hex cast, and for warlock curses you don’t need to be that quick.

Can you try my trick and binding 2 modifiers to MB4 and MB5 to see how much more relaxed your hands become?

My hands are too small to comfortably reach these buttons while also holding on WASD. They should be seldom used. For me, the prime real estate is TAB Q E F R Z X C but 2 and 3 are also great.

And I repeat my original reply: All the time.

The special action button is the button that appears on certain encounters or locations or quests.

Not often, but when I do it needs a bind due to how fast I may have to use it. That’s why it’s at shift+G, which is pretty far.

No. Those binds are junk. Especially polymorph on A, are you kidding lmao. There aren’t enough binds, either.

It’s never easier to click. Ever.

And I recommend using what I use in every other game ever made with WASD movement.

I only have it for 3 spells. That’s ~8% of my arsenal.

This is not true. T should not be used often, but reaching it quickly is no problem at all.

I do use focus modifiers as noted, but it’s alt. To set it, I use clicking the wheel with the cursor over the intended target.

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Found your problem, you’re holding WASD to move like this is some FPS game.

I literally only use strafe for movement which I have binded to S+F. If you’re a tank in PvE you could argue backpedalling is also necessary so you’d have that on D, but that’s it.

Tons of easy binds to access like WQERDA but you choose to make your life harder.

Also what’s wrong with A on polymorph or other CC? A is a great keybind to spam if you were moving correctly.

Well, firstly I have bound S, and secondly being able to move forwards with the keyboard is important if you want to click anything that can’t be hotkeyed, like a particular player, thirdly I have not lost Q E or R, fourthly my pinky rests much easier on shift when using WASD, which is why WASD has been standard in the industry since the late 90’s, and lastly the keybind A is garbage because it is a movement key and I don’t want to upend 27 years of muscle memory to move A to Q for no good reason, which I will then have to unlearn again in every game where S is actually a good bind, like DOOM Eternal, and because Polymorph is almost never used in most content - it is very much a a PvP spell on the whole.

This game may not be an FPS game, but you move exactly as if it were. Maybe if I compared with Skyrim, which also uses WASD, you’ll get the point? Who knows.

If it works for you, great. But it doesn’t work for me, and it won’t work for most.

EDIT: This is what I mean - you can’t fit it:
1234QWER = rotation spells → There are Nova, lance, frostbolt, flurry, glacial, ray, orb, blizzard, comet storm, RoF, bomb. Whoops, that’s more than 8. RIP.
Shift Q/W - DPS Cooldowns (Icy Veins) → Okay, we can do that. Now Freeze is far from Frost Nova, but fine.
Shift E - Big Defensive (Turtle/Block) → which one? Block? I guess?
Shift 123 = IMPORTANT Utility/Defensives, think stuff like Shift 1 for Alter time, Shift 2 for Ring of Frost → hmm… so, alter, mirror, cold snap
MB4 - Interrupt → Okay.
MB5 - Blink → what about blink back and movement while casting? We’ve got 2 buttons here that won’t fit.
ZXCV - utilities/CC → poly, dispel, nova, DB, knockback, cone of cold, shifting power… we can’t even remotely fit this

Where’d my racial go? Where’d my pots go? Where’d my trinkets go? Where’s my special action button? This won’t work.