Took break just to discover bots i reported and added 2½ week ago still running about

[Gerdan-aggramar]

Like come the f on. Its not that hard to detect bots. Its destroying the game. bots i added as friends to track was 23 and 2½ weeks later 40

Bots name: Gdbfd troll hunter
Bots name: Hgbjr troll hunter

They are in badlands if any1 wants to kill em

If Blizzard having a tough time finding them, just go to the northern part of Dustwallow Marsh and there is droves of mage and hunter bots running around killing spiders and raptors

[Minnimima-ten-storms]

I have been killing and corpse camping those bots for hours… obviously always letting them get lasthit by a mob.
Blizzard won’t do anything…, they never have and never will

[Saneko-ragnaros (Saneko)]

They’re generally aware in what zone/type bots occur, but you may always send in a short clip or description to Hacks@blizzard.com

You did not mention that you reported them but if you do that they will have enough info in almost every case for the future banwave.

@Minnimima-ten-storms

Blizzard won’t do anything…, they never have and never will

That is incorrect, they tend to post every so often and in part of making it more visible they also announced it monthly of how many bots they banned - and then it turned from “they did nothing” to “they make the numbers up” so there’s always some kind of weird argument popping up to discredit the anti-bot works.

For example in another F2P game Valorant & League this is explained in more detail why it is so difficult:

/dev: Vanguard x LoL

An ex-dev that worked at Blizz:

Banwaves Are Smart

Some accounts also get stolen with phishing methods or used with fraudulent credit cards, that incur chargeback merchant fees for Blizzard. The “paid” amount plus penalty costing Blizzard a lot more not to mention the damage the botters do ingame.

If you have any good ideas don’t forget to submit them through the ingame suggestion box!

@Kaivax

We hear folks say things like “just ban the bots” a lot. We ban tens of thousands of bots a week. It’s not visible to you just how much we do, and that is absolutely another problem in itself; we need to be better at surfacing these actions (more on this later). The truth is we’ve never been better and more effective at identifying and actioning malicious accounts, and our Game Security Operations (GSO) team that handle these actions are iterating and innovating on a nearly daily basis.

Unfortunately, in the history of WoW, the people perpetrating this illicit trade have also never been better at coming up with new methods, schemes, farms, and exploits to work around our efforts. As much engineering and analytics effort as we put into this, illicit RMT “workshops” put the same amount in, or more, and there are hundreds, if not thousands of these workshops out there all working around the clock to develop new technologies and techniques to counter our new technologies and techniques. It’s an arms race, and it never, ever ends.

We will never completely beat “bots” or illicit RMT. It’s an unwinnable war as long as there is money to be made by third parties. The ubiquitous nature of this type of thing in online games is an objective fact. It has always been a part of WoW, and every other popular online game for the past 25 years, and it will always be a part of online games going forward. It’s frustrating to fight this fight, but we will not stop fighting it.

While we can’t completely “win” the war, what we can do is mitigate the impact it has on the game. Is WoW Token the be-all and end-all to solve this? No, but it is a tool. It’s just one tool, though, among many. There is clearly a demand for gold for certain types of players, and that demand is only increasing. So, we are engaging a tool that we’ve used before to help mitigate the impact that illicit RMT has on the game. The more tools we employ, and the less lucrative we can make it for third parties to do what they do to make a profit, the less likely it is that new malicious actors enter the illicit RMT scene, and the more likely that existing malicious actors will exit the business. Ultimately, it’s taking incremental steps and using a multitude of tools that will reduce how impactful those third parties will be in Wrath Classic and beyond.

Source.

[Sajuuk-lone-wolf]

@Saneko-ragnaros

That is incorrect, they tend to post every so often and in part of making it more visible they also announced it monthly of how many bots they banned

Evidence about these numbers? After all, we’re supposed to take Blizzard’s word for it…

[Saneko-ragnaros (Saneko)]

@Sajuuk-lone-wolf

Evidence about these numbers? After all, we’re supposed to take Blizzard’s word for it…

See this is what I mean.

@Saneko-ragnaros

and then it turned from “they did nothing” to “they make the numbers up” so there’s always some kind of weird argument popping up to discredit the anti-bot works.

[Sajuuk-lone-wolf]

Indeed, except that we have visually at stake the absence of effects of the so-called Blizzard measures, the Bots are no less numerous, nor even content, they multiply more and more.
Blizzard’s numbers, are not worth anything as it stands, we have ingame proof.

So yes, you can be an MVP no matter what it means, you’re just a propaganda relay, without free will.

1: Yes bots and RMT bring money to Blizzard.

2: No actions undertaken, or not, by Blizzard has any effect against the Bots.

3: The GDKP is banned but is practiced discretly or transformed into “HR”, and all that revolve around the RMT run at full speed…

In short, Blizzard pretends to act, but WoW classic is just a tool to finance himself and please shareholders.

[Dabber-emerald-dream]

the green one don’t know them

[Dabber-emerald-dream]

true my friend

[Perudor-lakeshire]

Ban waves are not smart.

1. they are too late to take place before the break even point of the botters. This issue is known by YEARS now.
2. even if you ban a player for botting and the bot devs take notice that their bot has been detected…they don’t know HOW it got detected.

Saying “Oh if we ban botting accounts right after it was detected the botters can easily adjust their botting programs” is such a blatant wrong statement.

Ofc they will start searching for HOW it got detected and change things. But in the meantime, before an update that’s PROVEN by the Bot-Devs to “can not be detected”, every player (their customers) are at risk of getting banned.
Therefor the Bot-Devs will loose a lot of customers just by the increased risk for players.

And obviously a bot should not be banned instantly (meaning right the second the detection alarm goes on) but with a delay of a randomized timeframe between 1-3 hours after the detection.
A bot running a farming route from start to end for idk like 30 minutes. If it gets banned…the bot dev does not know at which part of that route the detection alarm went on or if it was on the first, the second or the third run.

Giving Bots literally weeks to run before taking action against them is way way WAY too long.

The most important aspect of why banwaves are bad imho is the psychological one. Players that are using bots at the moment dont have to fear getting banned every second. But would they face such a risk the probability would be much higher that a lot of players would not use bots.

[Lockon-ashbringer]

i rly want to know how the banning/ reporting works. I got rid of 3 botts, but the last i have been reporting for atleast a month in felwood and its still scurring around xD