Oh, and no, the harnesses are made of thick Kodo Leather, so, er, no.
The virgin lightning bolt vs the CHAD multi-layered plate armour with no metal directly contacting skin, acting as a faraday cage and harmlessly grounding the lightning.
Warriors aren’t without their tools and tricks!
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I’d be curious to see where you got that from…
There is no source for it. There is no IC class tierlist.
Every class is super mighty when it’s in focus. A warrior spellreflects the shaman and then beats their face in. A rogue/hunter stabs/snipes the shaman before they know they’re there. And so on and and so on.
DK in particular just AMSes the lightning and then fries the shaman with Dark Simulacrum. Bzzzzt.
I know, I just hate it when people claim there is. All classes are equally strong and win depending on plot.
I would not go that far at all. Just because there isn’t an IC tierlist doesn’t mean all classes are equal. We don’t have hard info on how they stack up against each other, but absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
My headcanon is that DKs are on top, as I think overall feats and descriptions suggest this, but this is just my opinion, and it can neither be proved nor disproved - it’s speculative headcanon.
I don’t even know how to begin to translate this post. I’ve been staring at it for 20 minutes now and I have no idea what you posted is supposed to mean. I’ll try my best, though.
That’s not what I’m insinuating. Rather I’m saying that you shouldn’t downplay shaman as some generic zappers.
That’s… the point. You couldn’t fly because of the thunder storm. Which dropped their fliers from the sky. Because they were struck by lightning. I don’t know what the argument here is meant to be? First you’re saying no, then yes?
Uh-huh. Did you know the thread’s about the worst type of people to RP with?
What? What does that have to do with anything? I literally don’t know where you’re coming from, or what you’re trying to get at here and I’m deeply concerned right now. None of that is even tangentially related to the topic of what happens to you when you’re struck by lightning.
Well that explains a lot.
I posted a cool response to this thread scratching the surface of shaman class lore, it’s worth checking out.
If you have a class whose average representative demonstrates the ability to wave away destructive floods, becomes one with the world and the elemental spirits in it, and demonstrates the ability to link and bond with every living being around them, and is immune to magical interrupts according to War of the Ancients*?
I’d argue they’re up there among the top powerful classes.
*According to War of the Ancients, druids/shaman can’t be interrupted by anti-magic measures. There’s no magic to interrupt. They wield no power of their own, they only ask and direct inherent forces of nature. Like Malfurion states in the novel:
Your magic can’t interrupt the wind.
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wtf blizz where’s my spell immunity >:(
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Shaman can be locked out of their powers btw. Though it required concentration, Maraad was able to completely deny a very powerful dark shaman’s access to the elements by using the Light.
@Nerathion
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That’s pretty badass.
Mine would have to be Warlocks or Demon Hunters. It’s the only magic that outright attacks the soul.
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Thick roots, thorny and brown, smashed through the floor of the home in three places. Vindicator Maraad did not hesitate. He flung the power of the Light. The orc staggered, fell to a knee. The roots went limp.
But after a moment, the orc smiled. And stood back up. The roots twitched.Maraad continued to push the Light forward, numbing the orc, stopping him from calling upon his power, but he could feel the dark shaman stretching his will, building his strength bit by bit. The other dark shaman outside were forcing the spirits to lend him their aid.
It reads a lot like to me that Maraad’s using the Light to overpower the dark shaman himself, rather than cutting his connection off from the elements. He tries to stretch his will out, and Maraad clamps on him with the Light as they play their mind games. Even Turalyon shows in Beyond the Dark Portal that the Light can be used to overpower the mind of another, and rather forcefully too.
The best way to interrupt a shaman is to clock them out tbh. Can’t ask the spirits for aid if you’re unconscious.
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See, I can’t disprove that and it’s not an opinion without merit, though I’d argue that DKs beat DHs simply through specialisation - DHs are extremely focused on killing demons in their training and ability intent, whereas DKs are just anti-everything generalists.
There’s a quest in the blood elf starter zone about how the unholy energies animating undead forms a nexus in their upper spine. The quest giver instructs you to target that spot to insta kill them.
We know the weakness applies to sentient undead. That one Forsaken assassin crashed against the wall in the Haven cinematic upper spine first and died instantly.
Undead can survive a lot of punishment, and DKs even more so. They need to watch out for their Achilles heel (Achilles spine?).
Unless the DH can access that weak spot, I feel like the DK might outlast him.
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Maybe, but they aren’t really used to fighting Fel magic, and I’d argue Fel will work better on Undead than Necromancy works on demons. In the Arthas novel, Illidan’s spells were actually causing him pain, which considering a DK hasn’t felt pain most of his unlife might tilt the scales heavily.
That duel isn’t really an argument in favour of DHs, as Illidan - the most powerful DH ever, which is unlikely to ever change - lost to Arthas who at this point wasn’t even Lich King yet.
It’s not conclusive for the classes in general but it does show who wins at the very top.
But then the Lich King is/was OP as hell in general. We the heroes blenderise absolutely everything we come across, whether giant, dragon or god. Except Arthas, who outright oneshotted us all once he was done toying with us, and who was only narrowly overcome by the most literal and explicit example of a deus ex machina we’ve encountered so far.
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That’s why it’s important to analyse the average representatives of each class when ranking them up.
Based on the Illidan novels, DHs are incredibly OP on average. Vandel survived Maiev’s glaive piercing his skull, but Saronite weapons destroy the soul according to the Edge of Night where Sylvanas suicides.
besides that upper spine nexus, DKs don’t really have a clear cut weakness. They can survive decapitation as long as that nexus of Necromantic energies remains untouched. Their metaphorical heart, if you will.
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So does Fel, tho.
Would the lightning (which google now tells me is much hotter than the sun’s surface) not heat up the many plates of armour and just begin to burn up the warrior inside it
Doesn’t sound like a great trick to use but maybe I’m mistaken, I’m not a lightning enthusiast
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