Also establishes how orcs can detect someone out of stealth with their senses. The novels go into detail about orcish senses, and boy are they keen.
Saurfang could smell blood remnants on Nathanos’s dagger after he had cleaned it, from his scabbard, while Nathanos was on another floor of a building and through his sleep in A Good War.
Their hearing is so keen that Durotan could hear an assassin drawing his blade very quietly through the sound of a loud river next to him.
Although eyes can be deceived, the other senses cannot if you’re going up against a race that has evolved to be the perfect biological hunter-killer.
Also I play a hunter and I have an increased detection range so it’s all accurate. If your guy’s stealthing near my orc, she’ll sniff you out. Literally.
Why on earth would you flag for PvP if the enemy does not have the means to bring you down. If you think that throwing a turtle shell at a two tonne flying anaconda wearing armour and its armoured rider is sufficient then go back and play WC 1 RTS. That just is not possible. If they have artillery in place to bring you down, then fair enough, I remember a -very- tense three minutes during the Redridge campaign where I had been netted by a cannon agreed to have been in place, and a fellow flier had to come down and help me cut myself out of the net, both of us then flagged for PvP, thank -feck- the Alliance were looking the other way, yes I took an injury, yes so did my Dragonhawk. I was bricking it, we could see the Alliance, and if they had turned around, they would have seen us. Difference is, everyone suddenly turns into an anti-aircraft battery if you are flagged, and one shot is a kill, as it dismounts you and you drop. That isn’t how Warcraft represents aerial units at all. If the enemy has AA units then you flag, if they don’t then its kind of tacitly understood, they won’t try to be a douche, if you don’t. Only person who can shoot down aerial units with one shot is -The Hero- when mounted on some sort of anti air gun, So unless everyone on the other faction is -The Hero- on an anti-aircraft gun, I’d rather go with how Warcraft represents it.
Admittedly cross faction communication via the potions has now made it easier, as in they can just shoot at you directly, and you can react, but without any kind of mounted combat mechanics, which aren’t likely to arrive any time soon, if ever, its just easier to go with “I can’t realistically harm you, and you can’t realistically harm me” as a sort of compromise, as opposed to some weird system that suddenly makes WCII and every WoW expansion make zero sense, if you see what I mean…
In all fairness, I doubt anyone was talking about the sort of PvP that Sun Hawks do.
It’s fine and well to remain blue-shielded when up in the air since the two battles rarely impact eachother directly. At best there’s some RW’s flying one way or the other.
The problem is when people blue-shield during ground to ground interactions
Valid, Once you hit dirt, you flag, no two ways about it. If you’re heading into unfriendly turf, then yeah, you should flag, Air to Air shenanigans, that’s what the Discord covers, but yeah, If it is realistic that you could be attacked, you should totally flag for it.
By Lei-Shen and his defences. Are you claiming to play someone as powerful as Lei-Shen?
Must have missed those, as people were getting shot to crap by people who suddenly had SAM Launchers, whilst by common agreement not actually doing harm to players on the ground, maybe that should have been switched around and people on the ground arbitrarily taking damage via emotes, is that…better? or just a case of one side playing fair, and the other, not so fair? This said, depends upon the campaign, I’ve been ill and away from WoW a bit, so if it is a recent one, I can’t really comment? As I stated, when there are defences in place, the Sun Hawks for definite, take effects from them.
A: Well, they kind of did. B: Nope. Quite emphatically Nope. Its a big part of the character backstory what happened on Isle of Thunder, you’re assuming I made it through like a Boss, and didn’t get shredded…
And as I kind of plainly stated…it did! Just not Lei-shen levels of power. It completely did. If you really want to read how, it is somewhere in the distant annals of ‘The Dawnguard’ topic, under the rather telling title of ‘Days of Thunder’…
OH that’s pretty simple, The answer to the basic question is “no, I would not get knocked off by a Shaman’s bolt of lightning. Injured, yet, knocked off, no” ,we have a nine point harness designed to distribute weight and keep us in the saddle even if flying inverted, it has drawbacks, but also strengths which are a Thalassian state secret, but essentially, no, he wouldnot have been dismounted. Even if dead, he would still be in the saddle, until his Dragonhawk landed.
That “just” bolt of lightning is the same thunder shaman call crashing down from the skies. It’s not some uncomfortable zap, it’s the destructive force of the elements.
Shaman are one of the most powerful classes in lore, and Chronicles 2 showcases the power level of an average shaman. They’re able to diverge destructive floods by a wave of their hands.
But even then, “just” lightning is devastating. A single bolt of lightning is five times hotter than the sun. A bolt of lightning is 30,000 kelvins. Or 29,726 celsius. 90% of people struck by lightning are left with permanent physical disabilities because of absurdly hot lightning is, not least of which is a deadly heart attack if the charge travels through your heart. The bad thing about getting struck in the air is that you don’t have the ground beneath you to, well, ground the current before it can reach your heart. For most people struck on the ground, the damage is limited to their legs. Severe brain damage, seizures, permanent nerve damage and paralysis are common side effects.
You know the Lichtenberg figure people struck by lightning have left on their skin? That’s their blood vessels bursting.
It’s not made of metal, is it?
Getting struck by lightning is incredibly bad for you, and I can guarantee you it will drop you from the sky. That Dragonhawk of yours is dying with you as the current conducts through you, to him.
Oh, fine then, said Shaman would be cool with having been killed by an arrow to the head they would not have seen or known was coming. -Surely- that depends upon varying factors, unless you are trying to play the X Class is more powerful than Y Class, which I seem to remember having been debunked several times in this forum.
But sure, that sets that to rest, Shamans are the most powerful class. As it happens, I have been struck by Lightning, thankfully I had removed my piercings as I don’t know whether they would or would not have been a detriment (Not due to an incipient thunderstorm, that would have been weird prescience, but because I was due to have an MRI, and you can’t have metal in you when having those) I won’t lie, my Epilepsy kind of started at the same time, could have been a factor, I don’t know. I know I had mild electrical shocks before then.
You’re talking severe Electric shocks As in massive damage.
You’re also missing a massive point, which is kind of hugely contingent. A point that seems to have been missed. The whole -POINT- of said narrative was that we could -not- fly due to Lei-SHen’s thunder and lightning.
I mean that was the -point-. You seem to have jumped on an idea that was never actually being posited. As to taking a Lightning Strike? Beeeath please, if its some scrub Shaman summoning it, I’m going to just absorb that. Its what Blood Elves do. If you are suggesting that is in some way unrealistic, then I want you to explain hunter weapon ranges, given that -I- can loose an arrow and hit a target at greater range than Vereesa, Sylanas, Alleria, in fact any of them? So Bringing Lightning strikes into it is a bit disingenuous, wouldn’t you say?
