ToS is meaningless

I mean them banning you for this thread would actually mean them enforcing the ToS since you are breaking the ToS currently.

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Naming and shaming isn’t allowed on the forums, best to edit out their name as Kretias remarked.

Groups are empowered to manage their own members through the vote-kick system. If the majority of the group feels a player should be removed, they can initiate a vote-kick to remove them. The system is entirely under the control of our players. Players may choose to remove any other player from the group for any reason, provided the vote to kick passes.

It is not considered actionable harassment to remove someone from their group. If you were harassed otherwise e.g. they chat flamed you, you can report for that portion however.

Proposals so far include but not limited to:

  • “Reduced cooldowns stacking upwards” so that if you aren’t kicked often, it starts with a minor debuff.
  • “Reduced cooldowns, stacking downwards” so if you’re in a “good” party, then when they surprisepikachu kick you at the end the cooldown is lower.
  • “Warning before Debuff” - When you get removed from dungeon you get a Warning but allows you to requeue, if you get kicked again you get debuffed on subsequent leaves.
  • “Add reporting for kicking” - This is akin FF where they investigate if someone is really, really using votekick so often and gets reported for it that often as well. WoW used to do this.

If you have a proper suggestion, you may submit it through the ingame feedback box. I also would like to know to see if the suggestion can be improved making it into a better experience for everyone involved.

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But someone purposely getting someone restricted from content for 30min, that’s just absolutely 100% fine and should have no conesequences whatsoever right?

It’ll just prove my point that something that isn’t even remotely bad, showing people someone who needs to be banned is apparently worse than someone actually literally sabotaging the game for someone.

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Well i got suspended 3 days for reporting a bot that even now is 24/24 botting and that was like 3 weeks ago :smiley:
Your going to get used :sparkles:

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And these people don’t see the problem with this, which is both sad and pathetic.

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Didn’t you got a timeout for the same thing naming and shaming + swearing like you said…

This literally does not change anything. All this shows is Blizzard cares less about actual game sabotage by players than they do about said person who was sabotaged showing everyone who the sabotee is and avoiding all contact with them.

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Im not saying i disagree, but who will it be shown to? This topic will simply get deleted and no one will even notice.
I understand your frustration but what you are trying to do here is futile…

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There is nothing surprising in the fact that a system built by humans is being abused/exploited by others, it’s practically human nature at this point.

Indeed.

Blizzard’s ToS is absolutely meaningless and the rules only apply to some, not others. The mere fact this will be deleted will be further proof of that since the players going around sabotaging the game for others will never get banned or even a suspension.

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Sure, but what are you trying to accomplish here?

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You have a problem with the lack of consequences for using the kick feature in a way you don’t agree with. You complain about the absence of something in the ToS, not that the ToS isnt being enforced since as Saneko said the way the kicking has been used is allowed as far as Blizzard is concerned.

Not according to the current ToS. They havent broken the rules and as such a bann isnt warranted. You are free to complain about the lack of properly handling the kicking feature since some are prone to abuse it due to a lack of guidelines from Blizzards side.

Well, the kicking is allowed if the majority of the group votes yes.

You most certainly didn’t get suspended for reporting a bot. I report bots constantly and I don’t get suspended but get confirmation that actions have been taken instead.

Proof of what? Its breaking the ToS.

People get constantly silenced or suspended in game but hey. Same goes for the Forums.

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Actually, you really should read the ToS then. Game sabotage is absolutely not allowed, and does warrent consequences.
Yet, Blizzard doesn’t do anything, because it’s Blizzard.
If this was FFXIV for example, said offender would be either suspended or banned within a week or two, which is how it should be.

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They tried reporting them on the forums, named and shamed and got a ban for that. Thats probably what they are referring to. If not, theyre lying through their teeth.

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It is allowed and not regarded gameplay sabotage as I’ve pointed out several times now. So did Saneko.

They don’t do anything because the kicking is allowed.

FFXIV’s playerbase does it behind the curtain so its not really that much different. Same gibberish like the people spouting “dps meters arent allowed in FFXIV” while anyone that has ever actually played the game know it very much is a thing.

Which is what I assumed.

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Naming and shaming is forbidden because people are abusive.

You might find your own name on the “shame list” just because you had a disagreement with someone.

I’m not saying it’s the same thing, just saying it’s in everyone’s best interest that the privacy of all us is protected, even if we don’t deserve it sometimes.

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And yet, sabotaging the game for someone, that for some reason, somehow, is absolutely acceptable and OK.

See the problem?

Sure. Also provide us the ban reason please, because its certain that you didnt get banned for what you try to make us believe.

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