ToS is meaningless

I don’t think that’s correct either, if the community is in arms about something they will change things but not always for the better. For example, previously the debuff did not continue if you downed one boss. The result is that tanks would leave after the 1st trinket boss so they took the feedback and changed it to all in-progress runs.

Or that they changed that players who leave Blitz etc receive a stacking time and score penalty. Despite if they may just have had a disconnect issue (so not intentional leaving) which I still see threads regularly pop up about it.

They do change things, but it can get worse if they just blindly listen to the people demanding to take protections away.

Trust me, removing this and not putting anything at all in place would grievously make the DPS experience in Dungeons extremely worse. You wouldn’t be able to start or continue a dungeon because tanks and healers would just continously leave until they get where they want to be.

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Oh really now? I seem to remember the entire community being pissed when Alliance got void elves instead of high elves, and did Blizzard do anything about this? No. They kept their stupid idea, and just gave it a peach colored skin, which isn’t even giving people what they wanted at all, so them spitting in peoples face was twicefold.

Ok, then simply remove dungeon deserter for being kicked, and keep it for leaving on your own.
That is a really simple fix.
But again, Blizzard won’t do that, ever, because as I stated, they are utterly and completely incompetent.

Hardly the same thing.

What if you go afk or start griefing? The group is stuck with you until the end?

Again, people are abusers, under the anonymity of the internet they can do whatever. That’s why some rules are there to protect you.

Yes… I feel oh so very protected by having to sit in Stormwind for 30 minutes because someone decided to ruin the game for me and Blizzard does nothing about it.

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The Helf people also being most likely the most annoying bunch anyone has ever encountered. And its quite apparent why they didnt give a 1:1 Belf race with blue eyes to the Alliance.

This was already discussed over a decade ago (and this isnt a hyperbole). In that case you would have people stay afk and demand a votekick.

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You’re talking like this is an eternity. Take a break and grab a drink. Do something else.

It doesn’t happen every run.

Yes, sometimes we fall victim to the same system designed to protect us. But without it, it would be much worse.

It should in fact never happen, and all it does is make people lose interest in the game and not want to play at all, which is why Blizzard needs to step in and perma ban people who do this.

Actions have consequences. Just like how a violent criminal goes to jail for their actions, so should these people be denied playing the game they like if they can’t behave like normal functioning human beings.

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You need to calm down, for real.

Nothing serious happened. You can still play your game as you please. Report them and move on.

Internet is full of people of all kinds. We don’t stop using the internet. If you like the game, by all means enjoy and move on.

If you don’t, cancel your sub.

Either way, don’t stress and take care of yourself.

I don’t know about you, but I don’t pay a sub to be denied to do content. So with that in mind, yeah that’s pretty serious as that literally wastes my time and money, and the offender who did it really needs to actually be punished for it.

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I wish you all the best and I hope you resolve your situation.

Not really reportable that a majority of the group voted yes to kick someone. Maybe the person that got kicked was ruining their experience, we dont know the full story.

If there was a case of written abuse or something of that sort, it will be considered I guess.

We don’t know the full story so yeah, his best bet is just the report tool.

I’ve also had cases of people voting to kick for the silliest things so it is not unheard of. Sometimes the other players will just click yes out of habit, especially if it’s a DPS.

Okay now you are simply overreacting. Its no longer possible to agree with you when you turn genuine complaints into a toddler tantrum.

Well yes, then you report the messages that were written ofcourse.

Yes, but thats still not a reportable offense. They are just using the tools blizzard provided them.

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Long story short, not going at the idiotic pace of going full Sonic the Hedgehog is not a valid reason to kick someone and giving them a 30min debuff. This is by definition abuse and sabotaging someone elses game, and needs to be punishable by having you either suspended or banned.

The fact so many here defend this behavior really says how toxic this community actually is, and that is concerning.

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If you actually read most peoples’ comments(not just in this thread, theres several of them like each week) you would know a large part actually agree with you that the VTK system needs changing.
However the way you are conducting yourself makes it seem like you are part of the problem yourself. All you are doing is yelling, refusing to take anything anyone is saying in, and it makes it borderline impossible to even agree with you, let alone have a normal discussion.

Calm down, speak normally. Calling the community toxic while showing the behaviour you are currently showing is ironic because you are currently the most toxic one in this thread…

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No, initiating a kick does not need a reason, you can just initiate a kick and the rest of the party can vote on it.

On the other hand, naming and shaming someone on the forums IS against the rules, something that you know but choose to ignore/disagree.

What they did:

  • Chose to initiate a dungeon kick for some reason since one of them did not want you in their run.
  • 3 of them agreed that they would prefer not to have you in their run.

Both of those things are completely ok inside the game.

On the other hand what you did:

  • Started a thread whining about getting kicked, and actually NAMED and SHAMED players which is against ToS.

In that scenario I believe that you are right, actions have consequences and blizzard SHOULD ban you for what you did.

And just like that, you show exactly what the problem is, and how toxic the community is.

This is what needs to change, and there needs to be severe consequences for sabotaging someone’s game for literally no reason whatsoever. Failing to understand this, you are part of the problem.

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It doesnt matter anymore. Tomorrow the thread is gone and he will be banned.

Of course, because that is Blizzard’s priority.

People who actually do something bad get off without any consequences. But someone pointing out said offender, THAT is where they draw the line lol

It’s like a criminal mafia covering for their own really.