Toxic elitists that don't want RDF?

And you seem be under delusion that vast majority doesn’t want it. Let’s be clear here vast majority doesn’t care either way. Both hardcore Pro and hardcore Anti ARE a vocal minority. Personally I’d welcome a QoL tool when it comes to forming groups since the current LFG is well… Barely functional.

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Never said that. Read my answers again.
I’m part of the majority that either is fine with it or doesn’t really care. And I would use it too for that matter it one day they’ll go back on their word (again) and implement it.
I’m just fed up with all these posts about it when there are way more pressing matters to attend to before this rdf topic. Games is full of bugs, scripting issues, not to talk about server population and balance issue on pvp servers.
The rdf drama is pretty much at the bottom of the list.

There’s like 50 people on these forums

Is there any source to that?

Somehow blizzard doesn’t hear

What? The tens of thousands in-game obviously.

So what are you saying, every single dissatisfied person is on the forum and it’s not just because forums are extremely outdated?
If 100 people here are dissatisfied about something, it’s safe to say that it’s 0.1% or less of the actual number of dissatisfied people

If the great majority of players were really dissatisfied with this the “give us rdf” threads would probably get hundreds of likes at least. Not somelike like…48?

I didn’t say anything like majority of anything.
Forums are dead. They’ve been dead since geeks joined facebook.
WoW forums in particular have been dead since they removed Off Topic, 13 years ago or something.
Edit: Also, im the reason they removed Off Topic.
Edit2: What happened was, me and my off-topic buddies would see eachother in General Discussion or PvP or even RP forums and start derailing threads. Me and some dude that I thought was a lady ERPed on some RP thread once.
Edit3: It’s another story how I found out the chick was a dude but I’ll tell that story another time.

Announced it on someones stream no less.

And we’ve been here since then yes.

Just fine? Your guild had no raid loggers?

We’ve been here before, we know how this goes.

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You just keep repeating this don’t you? Repeat a lie often enough and it becomes truth, is that the play here?

Cause it’s not working.

Thats hilarious… You forget that you lost at least couple minuts before every run by not having RDF. But im sure you use that time to socialize with your group…
FFS its just mindblowing that the same pple who choose cerefully who will be in their group to complete dungeon faster are against RDF… Thats called schizophrenia.

Edit: And seriously WOTLK HC are a joke, i actually went straight from questing to HC and didnt wipe even once, everyone had the same level of gear. It doesnt matter who is in your group - you wipe if you want to wipe or if you have moron tank who thinks he can pull 2-3 groups in greens.

Notice how theres actually a rise in subs even after rdf was released for about a year then all of a sudden dropped when cata was launched? hmm cant put my finger on it but it feels like the issue MIGHT BE Cata

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It will never be one thing only. It was a series of factors but you can be sure RDF was one of them.

A bunch of factors is true but rdf wouldbe at the bottom of that list to the point it almost hold no impact

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Any proof for that? No seriously any actual proof for that? You seem to be drawing a very weird correlation, that just because RFD was there alongside many actual problems Cataclysm had, it had to be part of them. But again RDF was there for a whole year in WotLK alongside an actual content draught and yet the population didn’t waver.

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i would disagree, it literally introduced the “GOGOGO” alt rushers with heirloom gear which made the leveling experience in dungeons for new players and anyone who wants to enjoy it awful.

I remember healing and new play tanks would always get abused for not rushing and pulling the whole dungeon quickly enough. You also got players that qued as Tank or healer, but were DPS

It also lead to changes in the leveling experience, making it more and more pointless, cause people could dungeon spam and skip half the zones, which lead to drastically less to people in said zones.

I like RDF, but feel a lot of people look at RDF with rose-tinted goggles, while it did bring convenience, it also brought a whole slew of problems

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Nonsense, that attitude has been there since Scholomance was a 10 man raid and UBRS was a 15 man raid.

What do you think the Leeroy Jenkins meme is all about?

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It’s about chicken :eye::lips::eye:

If you want it to be like “back in the day” you need hundreds of thousands of people joining every month. The player population in classic is a drop-off while in vanilla it was skyrocketing.

Most different gameplay dynamics come down to this.

Personally I try to look at it realistically. All the things you mentioned exist in MMOs for a long time. Probably existed before WoW too. In our mentality we embraced the efficiency. Why do you think boosting was popular in the Vanilla Classic? Why people rushed through TCB like crazy ignoring everything around them on the path to level 70? Blizz selling boosts to 58 prior to TBC and now 70 in WotLK capitalizes on that mentality. And even now in first days of WotLK it wasn’t uncommon to see recruitment to uber optimized groups requiring TBC BiS for entry level Northrend Dungeons.

And not saying it as a jaded person. Quite frankly I managed to avoid bad situations despite being a newbie tank (frankly only picked Paly because it can slot into any role and I wasn’t quite sure what I want to do in the long run). But pretending that GOGOGO mentality doesn’t exist without RDF is wishful thinking)

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