So you basically say even tho NP offers it, the community is still wrong for people who want to use the given option???
And if someone uses the said option he is in the wrong for expecting what it was made for while the ones joining it are in the right because of the origin intention of the community while literally not choosing the option that’s made for them?
And THIS makes sense?..
You just shifted the context… of course it makes sense if you take part of my comment, apply different context to it and create another scenario. Stick to the actual context 
I know but we started to discuss M+ it is what it is now.
The question is who played more runs. Can you provide like at least ~200 pug runs to have a proper comparison? Because I can.
In the end you don’t need to value my experience at all but at the same time it makes no sense, when you try to defend the bad when the community should be superior in every single way simply because people are (apparently) willing to communicate. This is factually not the case tho, from my experience.
Did you actually understand what I wrote? I literally told you it’s in the END, where MOST people don’t even read AND on top of that I gave you even an explanation why it’s an EXCEPTION.
I mean you couldn’t even read my response, yet you expect people reading all the rules? You basically proved my point without noticing it.
And then you are surprised why I say you are trolling. I literally told you, an example from today where the keyholder was silent for 20 minutes.
And what is “the rest” of the group? You are 3 people, not getting more, one guy wants a pug, one guy doesn’t, third guy doesn’t say anything. Now apply your “rule”. Can’t, right? get the point now?
Has nothing to do with bias opinion, I shared my experience and gave you an example from today, most recent. The whole point it’s not a rare occurrence.
??? I mean… here, one more time:
I literally shared my experience how we were waiting 20 minutes. Then the guy drops a sentences and leaves. Where do you see me saying he left because he can’t invite randoms? It just happened that he left without inviting pugs but at no point did I claim he left because he was not allowed to invite pugs… Even told you his “reason”…
So, no. I did not literally claim he left because we couldn’t invite pugs…
How hard has this tunnel vision need to be that you don’t notice you need to pop BL… for the entire fight? Maybe the difficulty level is not the right one if it causes SO MUCH panic?
First you ignore this option, now you need to shift the context in order to make your point but not this time. I didn’t say I expect it timed. I said I expect people to do their best and I can clearly tell the difference. Additionally I told you that nobody can be that bad to make very specific basic mistakes and if this guy is, he should to for a completion key. Yet you try to picture it like I am in the wrong just by default because you want to defend the community so much.
Actually that’s literally what you do and in order to do that you keep cutting pieces of text out of context, while ignoring the context.
I literally talk to you about the options the NP discord provides and you do some very interesting mental gymnastics to disregard those and somehow try to claim it’s my views that are being weird? The irony on this one is real ngl 
Saying something is popular means nothing. Popular compared to what? Pugs? It’s not. Pre-mades? It’s not.
And if people like it… good? So what? What does it have to do with what I said? lol… I mean you need to pay more attention to the context.
Fun fact: In the past 60 minutes there was only one +10 run listed and cancelled due to lack of players.
I am sure you can see the +10 CoT too Add a few more minutes and you can add the NW, MoT and Dawnbreaker. Two of those cancelled.
Wanna share your characters? I played hundreds of dungeons and I can share it right now. Do you come to similar numbers?
Yes and I shared mine.
No it’s not. A community which communicates but the communication results in worse outcome than pugs is basically useless for me.
Sorry but your assumption is wrong. I helped many “noobs” over the years and I know exactly how “actually trying” looks like.
See? Again. You defend something with double standards. You have “completion” and “time” but you defend the way of playing that belongs to “completion” in a “time” run and claim I am being wrong for expecting was literally belongs in the option “time”.
Basically all you saying is “you are wrong” without any actual point. Your only previous point (if we can call it) was that all the options have no value due to the discord server philosophy but this is simply non-sense and wrong, proven by reality. Means, if those options were irrelevant, they would not be there and people would not use them. Obviously that’s not what’s happening.
See? I am wondering if you actually notice what you are doing here
Literally has nothing to do with what I said. You need to make up false scenarios in order to make your point. Why? Can’t you take what I said and talk about it? Why making up non sense?
Try again. Try this:
“Here is a community that offers timed and completion runs”
“Why am I in the wrong expecting basic knowledge in a time run and have to play with people who should join completion runs?”
Hard to find the flaw now when you stick to what I said, right?
The “speak openly” part was literally tied to our conversation. Not the pugs. By your logic, it means if I can’t speak openly, with you, means you are not chill…
But even more important, it’s just a phrase… holy… so you comment just show you didn’t understand anything at all regarding this quote… so in order words, you showed that I was right… You ignored the whole core point and then answered to something that you didn’t even understand… it’s like double bad lol…
As I said earlier: No
You just need to make this assumption in order to make your point because without it, you have no point. I am not expecting a guaruantee, I said it already. Just because you think I can’t tell a difference if someone actually tries or not, does not make it true. I am confident I can tell the difference but do you have anything else than assumptions?
I told you and your only point to disregard this was assuming that I don’t know if people are trying or not.
No you did not. You kept assuming that I expect to 100% time the key but I explicitly said that’s not the case.
But please, go ahead a be specific on this one and tell me what exactly “time” is here for if people do NOT look to time the key. I am really curious.
What do you think you just explained? What is “they cap dungeons” supposed to mean? How is this an answer to what I said? … I mean… ??? You sure you understood what you tried to answer to? Because it doesn’t look like it.
So do you play completely different in +11 than in +10 or not?
You have two options now:
1: lie
2: prove my point
Which one do you choose?
My friend… I literally explained the difference to you. We make a quick test if you actually understood anything, shall we?
Tell me what’s the difference between +18 and +12. Name everything you can think of except that everything is tankier and hits harder.
Now do the same for +10 and +12.
If you still can’t figure it out, you obviously didn’t understand the point.
Your question? You mean your claim that behavior warnings do nothing? Omg… I assumed this is common knowledge but here you go: They “stack” and at some point you will get banned for a few days or a week. The duration will then increase up to 30 days. After that it’s a perma ban…
This was even shared by ex blizzard employee…
I know you will take it offensive if I don’t say it therefore I explicity say it now: This is not to be meant offensive but you are a great example for the NP community. We can communicate but the conversation is so incredibly unproductive. Just like my experience has shown so far. Doesn’t matter what I tell them, how I explain it, the outcome will remain the same. And it’s not good
You do your best to disregard my point but the issue is, you don’t argue with reality but with made up stuff. And your personal experience, this one is valid tho.
But every sane human being will instantly understand why my experience is most likely to be the reality. If the people had a somewhat decent performance (basically pug level) AND would communicate… what would it result in? Insanely good experience that everyone wants. And how would this naturally continue? You would have most of the LFG full with NP groups AND a lot of +12 NP runs. Because +12 is not hard, especially for people who are willing to communicate and on top of that they have a very easy access to join voice without sharing discord names, adding everyone etc…
But this is not what’s happening. Now think why that is.
Oookaay mate, now THAT is what you’re arguing against? xD
when you answer me with why those options are there, I will read the next part. Because you again claiming things and not answering my questions is done with.
Thank you for the laugh.