Transmog drops

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I don’t understand the logic of gate keeping cosmetic drops behind “You need to have it in your bag”…

Sometimes, I make a nice tmog set on one of my characters, and then I realize 1 peice I need drops from lets say LFR and I instantly lose hope…

I haven’t really tried in the new system so I don’t know if you can “Need” on ilvl below what you have or you have to click “tmog”… But either way,

  1. If you can “Need” on stuff you essentially don’t need, but want for tmog, that leads to people potentially missing out on actual upgrades because people are farming tmog…

  2. if you can’t “Need” and have to rely on other people not needing it for you to have a chance, this will either lead to a super low chance of you actually being in the roll and or require you to have a lower ilvl character just for that sake…

So for me, it makes no sense to not just give everyone the appearence regardless of who wins the roll… They are cosmetics and not really tied to any “effort”, we all know in a few expansions, the conent will be soloable anyways, so its really just time gating people for no reason…
Am I missing something here? Is there an actual logic as to why, you should have the item in your bags for it to count towards the wardrobe?

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If people could get things done quick that’d be bad business practice if people were done within the month. These collectibles exist for people to do over time.

Item needs to be soulbound for it to be added to your collection. That said, I want PL back for LFR.

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I’m not sure that I subscribe to your idea that everyone gets all appearances just for setting foot inside a raid. Might as well put the appearances on a vendor then.

I do agree rolling for transmog is pretty useless in PuG/LFR content. I tend to use alts for gathering but that’s not practical for everyone. The change from PL has been pretty awful for collections. I went from getting 2 random items per full clear to nothing. I managed to get all the tier look from LFR using the catalyst and vault on alts.

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Would you ellaborate as to why you dont Think so?

If you’re still participating in the actual clear of the raid, I don’t see why the appearence of a drop, should be limited. You could also make it so every boss drops X tokens and you could then farm those to buy the tmog.
But how it is now, for people that don’t have much time but like an LFR set, is just locked out of it. I’m not saying the loot itself should be given, but if a dagger drops, I wouldn’t mind a full geared rogue also getting the appearence if the alternative is him not wanting to participate in content because he knows he won’t get anything or me losing and upgrade because he “Needs it for tmog” :sweat_smile:

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So for me, it makes no sense to not just give everyone the appearence regardless of who wins the roll… They are cosmetics and not really tied to any “effort”, we all know in a few expansions, the conent will be soloable anyways, so its really just time gating people for no reason…

I’m sorry, but that is just an extremely very self-centered opinion to have.

Just because you can’t get something quickly, doesn’t mean that it has to affect everyone else in relation to goals/achievements that people have set out for themselves.

I run the old raids on my characters at least once a week to try and complete transmog collections and not once, have a I said to myself “damn I wish I could just enter and get all transmogs because I’m too lazy to put in that extra effort!”.

Come on dude, think about the big picture and not just the “me, me, me” view point of what an MMORPG is.

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Instead of trying to have a go at me or my person, without knowing me, could you put actual arguments on the table so we could have an adult discussion or are we keeping it the tone you met me with here? :slight_smile:

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It removes any collection aspect of the game.

It might as well be something you buy from a vendor then because you’re not actually doing anything to get loot drops. You could literally just join and afk and be awarded all looks.

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But how is that different from now? You could do the exact same thing here. Only difference is, now its tied behind an RNG element, that you win a roll… And or, you even getting a chance to do it? :slight_smile:

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I get the feeling that no matter the response, even if 100% proven evidence about a current topic or idea for example.

You would still go “but why?”.

At the end of the day, this is unfortunately a you problem, not a World of Warcraft problem. The system as it is, will not change, so you need to look at the grand scheme of things and decide if you wish to continue hunting for those transmogs or just drop that hunt all together and find something, which has that instant gratification to it.

Sorry to be blunt, but I’m not going to sugar coat a response to avoid offending someone.

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If it’s no different why are you proposing a change?

I understand you want the easiest, laziest solution, where you never have to repeat anything, to collecting but I don’t understand why you would pretend it’s not different.

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No, but I dont see, how it makes it more “MMRPG” that you have to wait multiple years to solo content?

How does it make it more of an MMRPG, that you are locked not being able to roll specific items because you have better?

Not everyone play the game to the same extend, so I don’t see the reason to go farm old content, for it only to again be an RNG?

Not really true now is it? They changed the fact that you don’t have to be able to wear the item for it to count didn’t they? The game changes constantly by feedback. And the only way we can discuss these things, and get a broader understanding is by discussing topics.
If you are so stuck on “The game is how it is, if you dont like it, then dont play”, then why even talk on Forums?

It has nothing to be about “being blunt”, but you assuming stuff, calling me things, instead of arguing as to why you don’t think its a good idea, is just childish way of going into a discussion. I could be doing the same, but that wouldn’t get us that far would it? I simply asked a question. I didn’t say WoW had a problem? So why go for that?

So for you, farming the same thing over and over, makes the game more enjoyable? Again I see no reason, calling it “the laziest solution”:

It adds nothing to the game making it RNG, its a game… We play it to escape, to have fun, to enjoy… I would argue, it adds more to the game, that people could dress their characters the way they wanted, instead of getting a "Whoops, it didnt drop. Good luck next week running this raid from 6 years ago :slight_smile: "

But again, I must just be lazy.

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Yes, you’re a lazy gamer.

Again your comments are all about the “me, me, me” aspect of what YOU want that system to be like, because YOU don’t want to farm for those items.

The same can be said about people farming mounts, farming achievements, anything farming related. That is part of an MMORPG, the grind to get a certain thing. There are things placed within an game, to be instantly obtained for whatever reason. However, what you’re suggesting, will just not happen, period!

Blizzard have said that come The War Within, with the introduction of War Bands, you can obtain transmogs for different item types, which you gain from other characters. So that will increase your chances of getting more transmogs.

But if you’re wanting 1 specific item, then yes it will take your some time, purely down to RNG and that system, which I’m sure if all people were to vote on it, would remain the same, as it currently does right now.

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So I could be farming every other aspect of the game, but you can conclude that, because I question a system that is in place? :slight_smile:

And funny, you had no answer to the other points raised.

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You can question that system, but it doesn’t mean that your opinion/idea is valid/good.

You have to be ready to be given feedback, which you may not like/disagree with.

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Never said it was. But you haven’t really told me why and or given me feedback. You’ve just concluded that I’m a lazy gamer, and went for the man and not the ball :slight_smile:

But apparantly, you arent interested in discussing opinions but would rather just call me things instead without even knowing me.

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If i understood the OP correctly you wouldnt just get all mogs automatically by just joining the raid. U’d still have to kill the bosses and have the item drop to be able to obtain the transmog. Personally wouldnt have any issue with that, but im also not a collector so i dont ever do content just for the transmog, so i cant really comment on how that would be for those that enjoys running the same raids/dungeons for weeks/months/years to finish all transmogs.

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Exactly, so its no different than what people already do with Old content… only difference is, Old content you are able to solo, new content you aren’t… So if you dont have alts, you are locked behind having to rely on noone having a need for that one tmog you need, and even if everyone Rolls “Tmog” its still RNG… so you’re being time gated by having to wait years for the content to be soloable

Unless you of course, make alts and run content for tmog and then Press “need” on items for the tmog… but the negative of that approach is you potentially taking actual upgrades from other people, because you want to have red shoulders instead of green

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You want to bypass the current collecting system and are surprised that it would be considered the laziest solution? You don’t want to collect you just want to show up and be given everything.

People aren’t always going to agree with you. Collecting is a huge part of Warcraft for many players. It stands to reason they don’t want that to just be done in two clears.

It adds nothing for you, but this game isn’t made just for you. You see no value or any satisfaction from getting that missing piece of your collection, others do.

There is nothing wrong with making suggestions, just don’t be so hostile to others who don’t necessarily agree with you. :slightly_smiling_face: :upside_down_face:

Best of luck :four_leaf_clover:

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You’d get everything very quickly if you never had to win a single item. Removes collecting. You might as well just stick the appearances on a vendor after the raid is no longer current.

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With the Warband change of being able to learn any armour type for your collection on any character, this would be pretty cool. I can’t see it happening, sadly, because it would essentially put a downer on playtime. Blizz knows that people spend every week farming old raids for transmogs and this has already cut down the amount of time we will have to spend. They want you to play the current content ad nauseum for some… business reason.

I don’t think you are a “lazy gamer” I understand your pov and suggestion, I certainly wouldn’t say no I just don’t think it is realistic. Perhaps a nice compromise is the drop of cosmetic items in addition to the current loot table, that people can do a proper transmog roll on?

Also a note that in current content I have not gotten a single drop from LFR but I have got items from the vault and the catalyst. I am essentially waiting for the catalyst charges to get all the current Tier and then upgrade the gear from there. (Although fortunately for me I only want the LFR in most cases so I don’t even have to step foot in it due to open world ilevel) You are basically more able to get transmog by using the catalyst than by drops. Except weapons… which is a bad overlook imo.

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